vitamin d

"insolvent" == involvement

 

The fact is, as has been proven over and over in this thread and others, is that everything can be proven and disproven by simply tapping what responce you wish to hear into the little google box and hitting return.
The true skill lies with those who posess the knowledge to blow away the chaff and see the actual facts and truth that lies within.
Anyonecan conjure up studies from google and back up their arguement for or against.
Personally and imo, Angelea and Stephen Spring are the most knowledgable on VMS'S and imunology, they posess the higher knowledge required to read what is exactly what is going on in studies and come to an knowledgable and informed conclusion, as can be seen here.
JOH, the fact that you are not aware of what Bulldogs mentioned earlier about the skewed TH2

 

The fact is, as has been proven over and over in this thread and others, is that everything can be proven and disproven by simply tapping what responce you wish to hear into the little google box and hitting return.
The true skill lies with those who posess the knowledge to blow away the chaff and see the actual facts and truth that lies within.
Anyonecan conjure up studies from google and back up their arguement for or against.
Personally and imo, Angelea and Stephen Spring are the most knowledgable on VMS'S and imunology, they posess the higher knowledge required to read what is exactly what is going on in studies and come to an knowledgable and informed conclusion, as can be seen here.
JOH, the fact that you are not aware of what Bulldogs mentioned earlier about the skewed TH2 responce in people diagnosed with MD really is scary stuff. You may not be aware of it, but pushing vit D in MD patients is the wrong thing to do.
Also, claiming a 87% success rate of elimination of symptoms using your regimen should not be pushed. I personally know of 5 people that tried it, and as luck would have it all of them were part of the unlucky 13% group. By all means I am not saying one should not try it, but I also know of a few people who tried your regimen and had no success but becasue of the phychological damage MD can wreak, they cling to your regimen in case their lifestyle damaging disease may get worse. I was one of these people, I gave up the regimen and now feel much better.

 

Ah another victim of the "expert" syndrome.

 

The advantage doctors, specifically Meniere's specialists, have is that of perspective from seeing hundreds, if not thousands, of patients with this disease, and similar ones, each year. In addition, a good specialist attends conferences, does research (and therefore has done lots of literature reviews), and communicates with others in their field. There are probably only a handful of these experts in any given country. Some are more aggressive and willing to take a leap of faith beyond what the literature has proven but for which there is plausible evidence (i.e. Dr. Derebery and others at House Ear Clinic), while others opt to be more conservative while waiting for better data in which to change their practice of treating Meniere's.

We can all read studies 'til we're blue in the face, but we simply don't have the benefit of experience and education that a good doctor has in which to interpret what we are reading. We simply don't know what we don't know. I'm all for self-education and attempting to understand for ourselves what we are personally living through, but we have to acknowledge our limitations.

 

Irelandman,

Thanks for your perspectives.

But it seems that they might apply to almost all posters here (except Mr Spring and Angelea, of course). Should anything at all, any personal information or experiences regarding Meniere's Disease be posted, read, or considered here, inasmuch as only a selected few have the requisite intelligence or knowledge to provide reliable and applicable information regarding Meniere's?

Ok, so an explanation of autoimmune etiology is reliable, plausible, and applicable; but those implicating herpes viruses and their suppression by lysine and other substances (my thesis), or insufficient (high-dose) vitamin C (Solari's theme), or an explanation and treatment by NUCCA chiropractic therapy, or other treatment approaches centered on migraine-associated-vertigo (MAV) are questionable? Should any of these alternative approaches to MM (many listed and discussed on this thread: http://www.menieres.org/forum/index.php/topic,25945.0.html) be categorized in the manner you have with my regimen and postings? Am I the only mis-information culprit here (or, perhaps, only the most frequent)?

Are you afraid, perhaps, that readers here (unlike you and me) are rather dumb, ignorant, and too-easily swayed by the easy MM solutions that so often pop up in this board? I don't share that view; I think those who come here are, by nature, skeptical, discerning, and inquisitive, and have adequate mental powers to make personally appropriate Meniere's decisions. (I do advise potential users of my regimen, in it's posting [http://www.zoominternet.net/~kcshop/JOH.pdf] to first consult with their physician.)

If my promotion of adequate vitamin D supplementation is an actual health hazard, I’m joined with a plethora of medical practitioners and researchers who originated and flagrantly post the information I, from time to time, offer here. Perhaps you should take up the matter with the physicians and researchers over at the Vitamin D Council. Who should be more culpable, me, a medical layman, or the doctors over there (www.VitaminDCouncil.org)?

By the way, please forward the John of Ohio Treatment Regimen information from each of those you know for whom the regimen failed to provide significant or complete symptomatic relief. I will enter them into my regimen results database and recalculate the success rate.

But don’t include those who elected to use only portions of the regimen, or unfortunately, used the older versions with only 1500 mgs of daily lysine. Only the most recent regimen version, centering on a minimum 3000 mg daily lysine protocol, are included in my “successes” compilations. Using older, 1500 mg lysine results is an apples to oranges comparison, which has no meaning to those who wish to try the most successful version of the regimen. Clearly, 1500 mgs of daily lysine is not enough to suppress many cases of herpes-caused diseases, whether Meniere’s, cold sores, genital herpes sores, or the others.

–John of Ohio

 

I did not (and do not) take vitamin D because of anything any poster has said. It's because THREE doctors (rheumatologist, PCP and neurologist) recommended it based on results they saw in my blood work and their patients.

So, in JOH's defense (not that he needs any), the levels of vitamin D he suggests are actually the very same doctors suggest too.

 

JOH, i know you mean well and all that but my main problem with your regimen claim is that 87% of people you know that tried it had success. 0% of people i know that tried it had success.
We will agree to disagree

 

...and amicably.

 

...and amicably.

--John of Ohio

 

[Sorry about the double posting.]

 

Ok,

This is all so very interesting, but as a very smart person told me THE BLOOD DOES NOT LIE.

I have absolutely no idea what causes MM nor do I know what the cure is but how many of us have had in depth blood testing done (5-7 separate test) and interpreted by Oncologist, Infectious disease and /or Immunological Doctors? The answer is probably zero, until recently myself included.

As I said, I have no idea what causes mm or what the cure is, but I know that my blood work reveals certain things that may provide answers and by focusing on getting my blood and fixing that I hope to find the answer to my problem/root cause for the symptoms of mm.

For years Aids patients and cancer patients had zero hope, until the focus turned to THE BLOOD and it was there that many questions were answered and treatment protocols could develop.

Remember THE BLOOD DOES NOT LIE.

God Bless.

 

Well, to be accurate, I haven't heard of ANY sustained success stories that are definitely not remission. From ANYONE.

 

Why can't we all just get along?

 

NO ONE?

 

That is the title of a song, isn't it?

;D

 

I think it's anyone, Sarita. Do Americanos use a double negative?

Felice Natale, bella!

 

You too, dolce Wombat

 

I meant that as in no one has reported any sustained success stories.

 

What about JOH himself, and Henry Sullivan??