Acyclovir/valacyclovir Great for vertigo! What is great for aural fullness?

Have you tried Lemon Bioflavonoids? They took my aural fullness away almost immediately and gave me relief for 6 months. Unfortunately, they haven't been helping since I had my baby in April but I think that is hormone related for me. I am hopeful that they will help again when I get my hormones straightened out. Anyway, I know rottiesrule has had a lot of relief from Lemon Bios as well.

But I am with you on the fullness. Mine is really bad today and was yesterday as well. It makes it incredibly difficult to concentrate at work.

 

Three substances facilitate the clearing (reduction) of excess fluids in the inner ear, the classic hydrops condition. All of these work --- but each in a different way --- by enhancing blood flow through the inner ear.

Lemon bioflavnoids (not any mere "citrus bioflavonoid," only authentic lemon bioflavonoid containing the active bioflavonoid known as eriocitrin) increase circulation in the inner ear.

Secondly, vinpocetine also helps diffuse away accumulated inner ear fluids, but in a different way, by microscopically dilating inner ear capillaries.

Thirdly, ginkgo extract decreases blood viscosity, allowing more blood to flow through microscopic capillaries. It has other positive physiological benefits.

Each of these, separately, can help reduce or end hydrops. But if taken together, one has the best chance of reducing the inner ear fullness that is such a profound symptom of Meniere's.

This is all described in greater detail here:
http://www.zoominternet.net/~kcshop/JOH.pdf

--John of Ohio

 

Santa if your on a blood thinners you according to my searches you should not be taking vinepocitne. refer to my complete post here. Please check with your doctor and pharmacist to be certain.

http://menieres.org/talk/index.php?topic=283.0

Disadvantages
•Side effects include indigestion, nausea, dizziness, anxiety, facial flushing, insomnia, headache and dry mouth.
•This product increases blood flow to the brain. Those taking any blood thinner, such as an anticlotting or antiplatelet medication, aspirin, Plavix, Ticlid, Pentoxifylline, vitamin E, garlic or ginkgo should not take Vinpocetine.

 

Vinpocetine is generally well-tolerated in humans.[18] No serious side effects have thus far been noted in clinical trials,[19] although none of these trials were long-term.[8] Some users have reported headaches, especially at doses above 15 milligrams per day, as well as occasional upset stomach. Adverse drug-herb interactions have not been prevalent, and vinpocetine appears safe to take with other medications, including diabetes drugs, as well as blood thinners like Coumadin.[18]

[18] http://thyroid.about.com/cs/alternativehelp/a/vinpocetine.htm

 

Santa, it is all parts of a whole. When one thing gets fixed they all do in my experience. The antivirals fixed all those things for me. They just do not work in a day and there will be 2 steps forward and one back for a long time. I dont think you can speed it up by pouring more and more stuff in your body, all that does is muddy the water as far as what is curing and what is causing further side effects.

 

No, physiological systems are not "muddy water." They can't be "muddied" by the use of safe, effective drugs, vitamins, minerals, or supplements.

Curious that those who are concerned about "too many ingested chemicals" don't feel this to be a hazard or concern with human foods. Should one restrain from using "too many" recipe ingredients because foods complicated with lots of ingredients might somehow be unhealthful?

Physicians certainly don't limit drug usages to some, arbitrary, feelings-based cut-off number. ("Sorry Mrs. Dorglemeyer, you are already taking six drugs, so we can't give you anything more for your new disease. The body gets muddied with too many drugs. Learn to live with it.")

Mulitple studies of the clinical use of vinpocetine around the world, for many conditions beyound vestibular dysfunctions, have universally proven it safe, with no side effects, even with anticoagulents.

But everyone will have to decide for himself how he wants to proceed. If one is concerned about too many chemcals (foods are chemicals, too) "muddying" the waters in the body, you'll sleep better in deciding which drugs or other chemicals to delete. (You may sleep better, but your symptoms won't.)

--John of Ohio

 

What ? I think you have me mixed up with someone else. ;D

 

Santa I found numerous articles warning of this herbs interactions, whether JOH says its safe or I present evidence it isn't safe under certain conditions, its up to you to find out the answers if it is safe for you or not.

I rather make people of possible interactions if I find them and prevent a possible dangerous situation. Blood thinners are serious medications and caution needs to be used when taking any herb or VMS which are Not required by law to list the interactions and side effects.

Prescriptions drugs can be just as bad if not worse but at least they must by law list the interactions and side effects so a person knows what he or she is dealing with and to decide if benefits out way the risks. With VMS and herbs you need to be your own advocate and find out for yourself. Most doctors are not knowledgeable enough about vms and herbs. Some are most aren't.

 

Santa, the acyclovir/valacyclovir is helping my aural fullness greatly. I am having delighful, ear-clearing pops like I hadn't had for quite a while. Also it has helped reduce my tinnitus and improve my hearing. I addressed my vertigo other ways. I am fortunate not to have the vertigo part of Meniere's.

 

"... whether JOH says its safe or I present evidence it isn't safe under certain conditions, its up to you to find out the answers if it is safe for you or not."

I'm not the authority on the safety of vinpocetine. It's the professional researchers who have conducted the clinical trials of vinpocetine and have found (and declare) no complications with drugs in general, or anticoagulents in particular.

The medical professional in this case is Dr. Bernd Wollschlaeger, MD, a Florida-based board-certified family physician who states, "critical review of the literature has reported no adverse effects. Vinpocetine appears to be safe, without any adverse affects. The only reported side effect, in a very small number of cases, was a slightly upset stomach, which is almost always a side effect for some people taking herbs. We have not seen any adverse effects or drug-herb interactions, and it seems safe to take with other drugs, including diabetes drugs, and blood thinners like Coumadin."

JOH didn't make this claim. A real, practicing research physician did, after conducting clinical research on vinpocetine. You can believe Vicki, JOH, or whomever, of course.

[Could anyone post any clinical vinpocetine trial evidence or other real incidents that actually found a conflict with anticoagulents? We need real evidence, not unattributed generic statements lacking authentic clinical or experiential evidence.

I need to know about this, for my health. I take 400 mg of mixed tocopherals each day, along with 15 mg of vinpocetine. I've been doing this now for at least a half-decade, and haven't yet had a bleeding incident. Vitamin E (the tocopherals) are well-known anticoagulents.]

--John of Ohio

 

your not on warafin or at least you did not state you are.

I dont care who is right or wrong John as you seem to,

I just care about letting someone know about the many sites including renown hospitals, other medical institutions and articles stating the possible dangers of this herb and blood thinners, if all these site are wrong so be it, if they are correct then it helped someone.

IMO it's better to error on the side of caution than proclaim something is safe, when other evidence points other wise.

ANYWAY.. been there done that, I'm out of this repetitive discussion.

 

Antivirals helped with my ear pressure and also the ringing.

 

Good to hear..no pun intended! Ha! I have not had major vertigo attacks either but dizziness, a sense of blacking out at times leading to a near vertigo experience but most annoying is the ringing, clicking, roaring sounds and fullness, hearing loss, and a sense of having an earache that ends up in a headache many times. Great to hear the AV's work for more than vertigo! And may prevent me having to progress to this ungodly 'pleasure'…she says tongue-in-cheek!

This discussion is firing me up for my next ENT Dr visit tomorrow! Going to the AV's!!!!!! Whether she prescribes them or someone else.

I just coincidentally got a card in the mail just yesterday from a company called National Prescription Savings Network which purports to offer savings up to 75% off any FDA-approved prescription at most major US pharmacies. No fees. I am going to march down to Walgreens today with a request prices for either 252 400 mg pills or 126 800 mg pills of Aclyclovir and 126 1 gm pills of Valacyclovir. This in preparation for my meeting tommorow already armed with this information. My Kaiser Dr might need to prescribe outside of the Kaiser pharmacy. I will be prepared Has anyone used this service/card before?

 

Do you think it would be possible for you to try valacyclovir? It seems to me that if you are getting some results from the acyclovir, maybe the better anti-viral would provide even better results.

I'm sorry to hear you are having loud tinnitus. I find that so stressful. Mine really does seem to react to many things. I am finding that the tinnitus seems to be affected faster than the fullness. I am seeing the wisdom of simplifying what you are doing so you can be clearer about how your various symptoms react to each supplement or medication.

Also, I think I've read a few times here that you are concerned about taking too many things at once. I think with our health it is important to listen to our intuition as well as our intellect.