JOH, I don't remember which post on the forum where I asked that question. So, here I am again. What is arginine?
after JOH explains what arginine is you may want to check this link to the nutritional database which shows foods higher in lysine that arginine. http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-009083000000089000000-1.html
Arginine, like lysine, is an amino acid. Amino acids, of which there are 23 related to proteins, are the "building blocks" of proteins. Proteins differ as to their amino acid sequences and arrangements. Protein-rich foods, such as meat, are loaded with amino acids. Carbohydrates, such as sugars, have none. The body digests proteins, breaking them down into their constituent amino acids. The amino acids are then absorbed into the blood stream and circulated throughout the body. The amino acids are then taken up by body cells and re-assembled into new human proteins. In the case of lysine and arginine and Meniere's, arginine is an essential amino acid required by herpes viruses to replicate (reproduce). Large concentrations of arginine in the blood promote herpes virus activity. But lysine is the opposite. Ample concentrations suppress herpes viruses. The lysine is taken up by the chemistry of the herpes virus, which prevents the virus from absorbing the required arginine. Without chemcially-bound arginine, the virus just sits there (often for decades or longer). And in my regimen, I require that the lysine be taken at least 20 min before a meal, or at least 2 hr after one. That's because when lysine is taken with food, it is absorbed into the blood stream with all the other amino acids in the food. With a broad spectrum of circulating amino acids, the body's cells then absorb them all, for normal protein synthesis. That's not what we want the lysine to do. We want the lysine to be absorbed by herpes viruses, not normal body cells. This happens only when lysine, alone, is the only amino acid circulating in the blood in high concentrations. That can happen only when the lysine is taken without food. --John of Ohio
they are good for you but not if you have MM like many other foods unfortunately, just make sure you gt enough lysine to overcome the arginine when eating them I would think. as long as you have more lysine than arginine you should be ok
I have had a vertigo attack when I have overindulged in foods high in arginine w/o realizing it, if you recall it was raisins and walnuts I have found if I eat raisins or other high arginine food is small quantities and not too often I am okay.
Vicki, you mentioned before taking grapes caused some upset before. Just wondering if taking supplements such as Acai berry or Grape Seed Extracts can increase Arginine?
wow that is crazy I've been thinking I've been doing so good eating a boatload of blueberries all this time as they fight off cancer wow what's the next best thing?
maybe if you take lysine before eating it but not sure JOH might know if that would be good enough to counteract the higher arginine in blueberries
I think john had grape seed extract on his original list years ago? it is SO good for you; I've been taking it, blueberries, and other things for years
the blueberries and other high arginine foods may be why the antivirals helps then stopped helping so much. Maybe try cutting out all the high arginine foods you are eating for 2 weeks and see if it makes a difference with your MM symptoms..just a thought