How long should you cut out a certain food before you can make a conclusion on whether or not it is making your symptoms worse? I have never really noticed a possible correlation before, until lately. My ear fullness and roaring came back in mid-February after a 2 month break. I then started thinking about how I just started eating pistachios around that same time (yes, believe it or not I had never eaten pistachios before then, other than a piece of pistachio cake or small amount of pistachio ice cream a few random times). I can't remember if the fullness was back before the pistachios or not, but I know the timing is really close so I want to test it. For the past 3 weeks I have eaten a small bag of pistachios every day at work, so 5 times a week. My symptoms carried over into the weekends though. Can food triggers give symptoms lasting for days after consumption? Vicki, this is random but I did a keyword search in the old forum archive for "pistachio" just out of curiosity and saw that you had made a thread about pistachios giving you trouble. That is one thing that really got me thinking about it.
Most if not all nuts are very high in arginine compared to lysine, which reactivates HSV. Be careful with them, I learned the hard way, grapes as well and many other food have more arginine that lysine
I had both menieres and mav and still potentially have mav. Food triggers affect my mav but I am unsure whether they affected the menieres. I steer clear of alcohol, coffee, strong cheese, msg, soy sauce and cured meats. Foods high in tyramine used to give me alot of trouble. Yes food triggers can linger for days. I believe there is one really secure way of testing for triggers and that is to start from scratch and add an item each day using trial and error. Boring but it works.
I noticed the last three times that I had a vertigo attack that I had a banana about an hour before. Two were in the morning and one was in the afternoon. I have not had a banana for 2 1/2 weeks and no vertigo either. Anybody else had any problems with bananas?
MAV doesn't require a headache, I do not get headaches and have MM and MAV..50% of us if not more who have MM also have MAV You should read up on MAV in our forums database.
When I first got Meniere's some 13 years ago,pizza triggered vertigo attacks,so I stopped eating it.A few days ago for the first time in 13 years I ate pizza topped with sliced chicken and surprisingly nothing happened,no vertigo attack.Maybe,just maybe it's because my last vertigo attack was in 2006?
The Pizza may not have triggered a vertigo attack because with MAV your threshold can play a part. If your threshold of ingested triggers is low the pizza can have no effect but if you are close to your individual threshold of ingested triggers pizza could have pushed you over your limit and caused a vertigo attack.
very true jaypr and I still owe you for suggesting I have MAV you were so right! Thank you I find many of us find it hard to believe we have anything except MM but that's why these forums are so helpful. Funny thing though not until acyclovir got my MM symptoms under control was I able to see my MAV symptoms even though they were there all along. I think the 2 get mushed up together and it is hard to tell what's what sometimes.
I agree Vicki. The fortunate ones like you and me have found our answers and what works for us. I also think that many people just don't realize how many are affected by MAV but just don't know it. I wholeheartedly believe that if you are suffering with mm and you have been given an mm diagnosis it costs nothing but a bit of perseverance and trial and error to see if you have been misdiagnosed by treating your condition as MAV. As Vicki says many of us can have MM and MAV or MAV instead of the diagnosed MM. It was wonderful for me to come out of those dark vertigo and vomiting days and take control of my life after struggling from 2005 to 2009.
Pistachios have a lower ratio of arginine to lysine than other nuts, but still a lot. Cashews have less of both. I love nuts, and it is a big loss to give them up. Those are the two that I am eating in moderation--extreme moderation. I'm eating no where near a small bag/day. Since that is so distinct, I'd try stopping and see what happens. I'd think it could last into the weekend, because my understanding is that the arginine makes the virus flare up, so that would last until something else tamps it down.
Oddly enough, I find that artificial sweeteners of all kinds (aspartame, sucralose, etc) give me almost immediate symptoms. Ever since I quit consuming artificial sweeteners my symptoms have subsided. Three times in the last two years, I unwittingly consumed products with artificial sweeteners and all three times I had a relapse of hearing loss that lasted 2-3 days. The first time was breath mints that I had been keeping in my car. When my symptoms came on, I looked at the label and sure enough they contained aspartame. Symptoms resolved within days of quitting their use. The second time was from some fresh brewed iced tea I bought at a health food restaurant. I had terrible fullness and hearing loss later that day and when I went back in the next day I was advised that the tea was sweetened with some artificial product. A few doses of Benadryl got rid of the symptoms. The last time was when I had a cough and a friend offered me some lozenges. I didn't realize they were sugar-free (which means artificially sweetened) and after consuming a few over the course of the day my hearing bottomed out. In all three cases, I didn't even know I was consuming artificial sweeteners but my body reacted anyway. Theses sweeteners are in quite a few products, and show up in places you don't expect. If you have MM I would advise trying to avoid those products for a couple of weeks and see if it helps.
This is very good example how the line between MM and MAV get blurred, artificial sweeteners are a trigger for MAV. Jester you should look into MAV since they trigger symptoms for you. http://menieres.org/talk/index.php?topic=32.0 FYI nuts besides being high in arginine and bad for MM they are also food triggers for MAV