JOH Regimen Problematic Components

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  1. VikingMan

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    To John or whoever else might know about this. I'm presently planning on adding 1 component from the regimen every 3 or so days. I want to get rolling on this thing as quickly as I can. I'm curious if anyone ever kept track of which component in the regimen was the most likely to cause problems.

    I added the lemon bioflavonoids this morning, taking my second dose tonight. Haven't had any problems with it today. The lysine likewise has been fine. Doing 4G a day. Vinpocetine next.
     
  2. John of Ohio

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    There was one report that vinpocetine caused tachycardia, rapid heart beat.
    Vitamin E and ginkgo can both reduce blood clotting.

    Discontinue if any tachycardia or bleeding occurs. Both very rare.

    --John of Ohio
     
  3. Hollyflo

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    I started with Vincocetine which I had an intitial reaction to but then instead of taking it three times a day, I took it once a day for a few days and titrated up. No issues since then.

    Best of Luck!
     
  4. VikingMan

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    Okay, so rapid heart beat from the vinpocetine. Are any of the components more likely to increase the vertigo?
     
  5. John of Ohio

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    As those on antiherpetic therapy so often encounter, the herpes virus that causes all the symptoms may become more active when starting the lysine. So, yes, for a time the lysine therapy can increase vertigo and other symptoms to some degree. But if that happens, it indicates that the virus is being chemically attacked and will eventually prevail.

    --John of Ohio
     
  6. Santa

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    Many say it gets worse before it gets better. Even Homeopathic Drs. Will tell you this is going to make your condition worse before it can make it get better.

    I had six bouts of vertigo in my life and they were spread out over a two year period. Three in 2013 and three in 2014. About this time in 2014 I had my first experience with aural fullness. In June I started taking acyclovir and Joh's regimen. I started having vertigo almost every or every other day. Most of the time it would Last about three hours and only a couple of times did it make me vomit. However I would usually have to take a nap and I would be drained of energy for hours.
    Nine days ago I added OPC to my Regimen and three days later my infected ear was making all kinds of new noises and I had a little bit vertigo. But the next day I awoke with no aural fullness and 5 days later I still don't have any aural fullness and I haven't had any vertigo.

    If you want to read about OPC go to my post called "beginning of the end"
     
  7. Bella

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    vinpocetine made me physically ill.
     
  8. VikingMan

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    Bummer! I'm grateful that it hasn't made me ill. I'm taking 20MG a day right now. And my chess play has suddenly improved. It is supposed to increase blood flow to the brain. lol I don't know if that is actually because of the vinpocetine, but there you are.
     
  9. Brownrecluse

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    John is, of course, right in his cautions. I have followed most of his regimen for some years now (not the Lysine, or a couple of others, but pretty much everything else.) NO ill effects. And I attribute doing that to an arrest of the expansion of some of my symptoms. But I will be frank. I am at the severe, worst end of symptoms. All of my balance functions disappeared at the end of last year. Horrible in some ways, but it also meant an end to those nasty vertigo/nausea attacks. Hearing almost nonexistent, totally deaf in my left ear, limited, distorted hearing in my right. Tinnitus beyond belief 24/7. Cannot walk unaided. Other symptoms too.

    Bottom line for me: we all react differently to different things. I have severe heart issues. Two major heart attacks, three coated stents in my LAD now, pacemaker, lots of meds. None of the things on the JOH regimen affected any of that, and my cardio team concurred. But they could be wrong. Menieres is diabolical, and affects each of us in a different way. We must all always be aware of that, and react to what WE are experiencing, not to some template, one size fits all diagnosis or formulation.
     
  10. deadeye

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    a/v's give permanent relief to some; others like me have temporary success and fall back into our symptoms; guess my pesky virus plays dodge ball with the a/v's better than some
     

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