Qntario are you on an antiviral or monolaurin? If you are an AV and your symptoms return when you decrease then increase your dosage for another 2-3 weeks and try decreasing again. This thread is for monolaurin though.
http://lauricidin.com/frequently_asked_questions/ ah ok well I am not sure of the doses but the lauricidin site says to increase not decrease, but I am not sure which monolaurin supplement you are taking. How much Lauricidin® should I take? Recommended use instructions are provided with each order or specific recommendations may be made by your health provider. “Low and slow”: For individuals ages 12 and older, start with 1/4th of a teaspoon (1/4th of the blue scoop) two to three times a day with food, and slowly work up to 1 teaspoon (1 full blue scoop) two to three times a day with food. We recommend not exceeding 12 teaspoons (12 full scoops) per day and always to start low and increase intake slowly. Children three years and older may start with as low as 1-5 pellets and work up the intake more slowly.
Thanks for the info. Im taking the vegetarian pills but when I run out I might give the lauicidin a try. Sorry to ask again, but do you think this stuff might be similar to AV's where it can take some time before it gets working? Thanks again.
I really do not know, I knew nothing about this until I found it on the internet during one of my searches, but you can read the study I posted about monoluarin on this thread and see if it gives you an idea. It was with HIV patients and the monolaurin decreased their viral load it probably gives the time frame in the study I would assume.
this is from life extension http://www.lifeextensionvitamins.com/cranblad.html Source: Ecological FormulasMonolaurin is an anti-viral that works directly on the envelopy coat of the virus by disrupting the conformation of the lipid bilayer, preventing adsorption (attachment) to host cells. This is a powerful antiviral, tested successfully for herpes types I and II, as well as non-specific viral infections. It contains the monoester of the acid lauric acid. Monolaurin has had good results in studies of Shingles, Herpes virus and Epstein Bar virus, which is closely related to the herpes virus. Monolaurin-based creams are being developed.In addition to the commonly known supplements Vitmain D, Lactoferrin and echinacea, physicians recommend taking several capsules of Monolaurin on an empty stomach.Drs. overprescribe antibiotics which will not work for viral infections. Monolaurin is a more judicious prescription for cold and flu.Viral diseases result from a series of growth cycles that kill or alter cells. The maximal goal of antiviral treatment is to restore function to the infected cells, stop viral replication and thus prevent spread to additional cells. The difficulty is inhibition of the virus without harming the body's cells. Diseases may become evident only after extensive viral multiplication and cellular alteration have occured. Thirdly, antiviral therapy can result in resistant mutation.Monolaurin is an exciting product because of its antiviral properties that enable selective use of a non-toxic agent to humans. Monolaurin works directly on the envelopy coat of the virus by disrupting the conformation of the lipid bilayer, preventing adsorption (attachment) to host cells.It does not upset the gastrointestinal tract. No significant effect was noted in liver enzymes, leukocyte count, red cell count or hemoglobin levels in studies.Not only does Monolaurin exert antiviral activity by direct activity, it also enhances both nonspecific as well as specific host defenses against viral invasion. It does not have an effect on lymphocyte or macrophage functions. It potentiates immunological activity by triggering agents as mitogens, antigens, phagocytic stimuli or lymphokines.Although it is broad spectrum, it has no effect on diseaase caused by polio, coxsackie, rotaviruses, Western euine, Venezuela equine or Japanese B encephalitis.Note: Some physicians recommend taking 6 capsules when one has a flare up of the herpes virus, and two capsules as a maintenance dose. Sometimes the herpes virus can be activated by Monolaurin, and then killed, reslting in a Herxheimer-like reaction where one feels worse before feeling better.If you have any questions, please contact us at [email protected] or 1-888-771-3905.FREE Shipping in the CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES - ALL ORDERS !The statements made here have not been evaluated by the FDA. The foregoing statements are based upon sound and reliable studies, and are meant for informational purposes. Consult with your medical practitioner to determine the underlying cause of your symptoms. Please always check your purchase for possible allergins and correct dosage on the bottle before use
didn't mean to hit post before deleting the ordering info UGH but there is a number you can call and ask about doses that was for a bottle of 600 mg, and it states on the bottom Note: Some physicians recommend taking 6 capsules when one has a flare up of the herpes virus, and two capsules as a maintenance dose. Sometimes the herpes virus can be activated by Monolaurin, and then killed, reslting in a Herxheimer-like reaction where one feels worse before feeling better.
Just finished reading this thread. Decided to order the Monolauren Health From The Sun Brand on Amazon. Adding it to the arsenal of pills…my tinniutus and fullness better than before starting JOH, Valcyclovir and OPC but still flucutates widely. Hoping for some more stability ;D
I haven't been on here in a very long time, this is one of the reasons I came back to have a look and see if there was anything new on the horizon! This sounds pretty exciting! I'll be following this thread! Thanks Vicki for your research and for sharing! I have a question - what is OPC?
Read Santa's thread, "beginning of the end". Basically, OPC is a French maritime pine bark extract plus grape seed extract. Promotes capillary health, which could be helpful for inner ear circulatory health.
I think Im going to stop taking the monolaurin for a bit. Ive been on it for 2 weeks and am still getting sick with vertigo and dizziness every 2-3 days or so. As it turns out, about 2 months ago when my symptoms changed from being sick once a month, to all the time like they are now, it started when I went on a different brand of Lyseine. The old stuff I had was 1000mg per pill, and I took it 3x a day. This new stuff, is 1500mg. Well stupid me didnt read the label and I just assumed it was 1500 per pill. Well its per serving, not pill. And you need take 3, not one. Long story short, I went from 3g to 1.5g of lyseine a day, and im hoping that is whats been causing my symptons to go crazy. Im going to ramp up the Lyseine for a few months, and then try the Monolaurin again. Id hate it if I did both at the same time and got better, I wouldnt know what worked. Good luck everyone!
I'm hoping that too Vicki! I'm now at 5 weeks and 3 days without a vertigo attack. No discernible improvement in my other symptoms such as hearing fluctuations, tinnitus, balance etc. I've had a few occasions where I felt I was on the verge of having an attack (got that sort of swimmy headed feeling and slight dizziness if I tried to move too quickly which is how it usually starts for me) but thankfully it never developed into vertigo. I decided to try upping my dosage this week from one tsp three times a day to one and a half tsps three times a day to see if that might help. I'll keep you posted! I wanted to add too that I had been taking the JOH lite regimen (L-Lysine, Vinpocetine and Lemon Bioflavonoids) for about two years but I stopped taking it the week I started taking the Lauricidin. The JOH significantly helped to reduce the number of attacks I was having and the length of the attacks but for me (and I'm sure everyone here would agree) one attack is still one too many. Thank you to John for your help and patience in answering my numerous questions when I first began taking your regimen and thank you to Vicki for bringing this supplement to my attention and for your encouragement and thank you to everyone else for your good wishes. It means a great deal to me. Merely saying thank you just doesn't seem like enough, but I really do thank you all. Five weeks without vertigo has been truly wonderful. All my best to everyone and good luck to all who are taking Monolaurin. I sincerely hope with all my heart that it helps you! Take care and be well everyone, Lulu ♥
How wonderful for you Lulu! Great update! I do suggest though to limit your intake of foods high in arginine to lysine ratio. Im keeping my fingers crossed you stay vertigo free from now on! Please keep us posted and thank you for the update! I hope some other people who are trying it post and let us know how they are doing too.
I find the info on Monolaurin interesting because it is supposed to actually kill the virus rather than just stop it from replicating. One thing that seems odd is prescription meds like Valcyclovir, Famvir don't kill the virus. So if there actually is a substance (like monolaurin) that can kill the virus, why aren't the drug companies all over this like flies on ....?
The drug companies are not in the business to cure anything. They are in the business to make profits for their shareholders by selling drugs that no one else can (patents). So, since monolaurin is a natural substance that can't be patented, drug companies are irrelevant to the issue. They can't make any profits from the substance. They are not in the supplements supply business (look at their revenues and profits). Then, the question might be asked, "Why don't doctors just tell their patients to simply buy and use this cheap, over the counter antiherpetic supplement?" There could be a number of reasons. To find out, ask your own doctor (but be sure to duck and dodge when he gives you his ANSWER). One reason, medical practice insurance and tort law, where doctors get themselves in real trouble recommending substances or procedures not recognized by medical societies or found in general practice. Lawsuits, professional sanctions, etc., when new, untested treatments or "drugs" fail. Or, professional ignorance. The good physician simply knows little or nothing about monolaurin (or lysine therapy, etc.). He wasn't taught any of that back in med school, and hasn't learned of anything new since, except for what the drug companies preach at medical update seminars, etc. Lastly, the guy just doesn't think or believe anything possible could work against Meniere's other than all the (quite unsuccessful) medicines and procedures commonly administered. He's The Doctor. He knows this stuff, so believe him. --John of Ohio
Well John, I am not quite as cynical as you in my opinion of the drug companies. But I am not that knowledgeable either. However, I think many successful drugs were originally derived from some plant or other, e.g. aspirin. So the drug company examines the organic substance, figures out what part of it is actually doing the job, eg. killing the virus, figures out how to make that chemical compound synthetically and patents it, then sells is as a virus killer. They make a profit and we all benefit the same as we do from the antiviral drugs. It just seems to me that if monolauren was in fact a virus killer, something like that would have happened. BTW, I do think monolauren does something to the virus. I just can't see that if it really is effective, why hasn't that scenario played out?
Somebody helped me please. I have been taking for about past 2-3 weeks 1000mg X 2 of monolaurin daily in the morning with JOH. Just today in the midst of my attack, i already two more in the evening. How much and how long can i increase per day? Thank you.
Domano. I tend to agree on JOH on this one about big pharma and medicine being big business and more profit oriented than people oriented, just by these facts w/o knowing much else Cancer has been around for ages and not 1 cure for any type has been found, but yet we have put men on the moon decades ago, we have extremely high tech devices and weapons. How many diseases out there are there a cure for? Diabetes? Cancer? Lupus? etc etc In a summary of angrychickens visit with Dr Gacek he noted that Dr Gacek hinted towards doctors/surgeons would lose a lot of money if the doctors prescribed antivirals for MM in their clinical practice, because it would eliminate the need for surgery in a majority of cases. It just doesn't add up, with all the knowledge and advances there is today no one has found a cure for any of them yet?