I've spent a lot of time reading and rereading this thread. For me...this post made the most sense. And I agree, I wish Dolfan would jump in.
(portion deleted by moderator as it was not conductive to the thread) My sister has used cannabis regularly for her arthritis pain. It has helped her immensely with the pain, but it is possible that the long term useis starting to cause her some cognitive issues. For those of us who suffer with vestibular issues, as well as anxiety, it is up to each individual to weigh the rewards against the risks and decide for ourselves what we are willing to take to get relief. I found it very touching to read of vitolony's ability to calm his brain and enjoy his family. That is something a lot of people take for granted.
Admin Post I had to remove a couple more posts and edited one. One last warning, stay on topic and stop arguing. Absolutely no one is exempt from this rule and they will be banned. For the love of God, this is a support forum, not a debate forum. If all you're going to do is argue, snipe, and complain about other people, find another forum. If there's someone you don't like and you can't just let it go, find another forum. This is supposed to be a place of peace. Enough is enough. Ray
Ray, my sincere apologies if I was a contributor to the issue. Hopefully I can get some facts posted up here and alleviate the vast majority of the issue. For clarification: The term "medical marijuana" refers to the use of cannabis (any form) with the specific intent of treating a medical issue. Marijuana can be ingested in several different forms. The chosen method often allows the cannabis to better target a specific system or area of the body. Smoking: It is solely the cannabis flowers (bud) that are smoked in any number of devices, and of course the smoke is inhaled. Vaping: The cannabis buds are ground, and then a small amount is placed into a holder. The holder is then heated to a specific temperature that allows the beneficial oils in the bud to "vaporize", and the vapor is inhaled through a tube attached to the vaporizer, or through a bag that contains the vaporized material. Tincture: The marijuana material, which can be bud only, or bud and smaller "sugar" leaves that grow out from the bud (generally trimmed off for smoking) is chopped up and placed into a jar along with vodka or another high proof alcohol. This is stirred and shaken, then allowed to sit for a few days while the alcohol dissolves the oils contained in the buds or leaf material. The liquid is then carefully strained to remove all solid matter, and then generally stored in a dropper bottle. A tincture is a concentrate, therefore not much is required per dosage. Generally, a dropper or two of the tincture is placed under the tongue, and slowly swallowed. Oil: Need to stop for awhile as my tinnitus is "through the roof" at the moment, and I'm going to go rest for a bit. My goal in writing all this is to give the members here a solid, basic understanding of medical marijuana, what it's made of, how it's used, etc, and also recreational use and the differences between them. Be back in a few hrs. Mike
It's a waste of bud if you don't, but then people are free to do as they wish. Vaping heats the material to a point where all of the oils and beneficial elements of the cannabis are vaporized, and by not grinding, you don't get equal heating of the bud. 99% of people grind it first, but as said, you're free to do as you wish. Folks, people do have varying opinions based on their own experiences. Ray does not want any debate or arguing, and I don't blame him on bit. Needless drama is a waste of energy and time, so if you disagree with me, fine, but I'm not about to enter into any debate over it. I'm more than willing to take the time to write it all up for us, but if I'm going to be disagreed with on every little point I don't care to waste my time. There is much more I would like to share, and that would be beneficial for the members here.
OMG THANK YOU!!!! I have been using some medical MJ, but I hate Hate HATE smoking it! But I had NO idea what else to do, and no one to ask (small town blues!) THIS, however, is PERFECT! I am, literally, going to run out and buy a small bottle of 151 right now.
Hi Margaret, I'm really glad to know that you now have an option... 8) Making tincture is a safe process, but it has to be done correctly. Be sure and decarb your bud, first, then proceed. Here is a very good sire for direction on how to make it properly: http://culinarycannabis.org/cannabis-alcohol-tincture/ This is also an excellent site, and the even provide a video.. http://gizmodo.com/how-to-brew-cannabis-tinctures-eyedroppers-full-of-hap-1598753173 Remember to start slow until you've identified just how much is needed. 1 full dropper (under the tongue) is a pretty safe starting point.
Continuing on with my previous post: Butter (AKA Cannabutter): Used for cooking the cannabis into food products. I generally make it using 1 oz. of crushed/shredded/ground marijuana to 4 cubes of butter. I suggest using the Amish Butter, as it is the purest butter commercially available. Do a google search for how to make Cannabutter and you'll have a dozen or more sites you can reference for recipes. Oil: Oils are the most concentrated of all cannabis medicines, and are also among the most effective for some issues, but not all. Cancer patients will use the oil in hopes it will either shrink or completely kill the cancer, and yes, there are times it is very effective. Oil can be smoked, vaped or ingested in foods. The "Rick Simpson" type oil has been discussed here quite a bit. It is not hard to produce, but it also must be done correctly as the chopped, ground or shredded plant material is placed in a solvent, which draws out all the useful oils and leaves all the unwanted material behind. The solvent I prefer is a locally produced moonshine 8), but most folks use Everclear, 99% ISO Alcohol or Naptha (only with Canadian Naptha!). There are many sites that can provide recipes for making the oil. It does require a volume of cannabis material, and I usually use the entire plant, except for the main stem and large, woody branches. Fan leaves, smaller stems, sugar leaves and all the bud will render a very good oil. Anyone using oil should always start out with a small dose, as you will find it to be very potent due to it's high concentration. Medical Marijuana vs. Legal Recreational Marijuana vs. Street Marijuana There are specific strains of cannabis that are proven to be effective medically, and they also generally specify which ailments they are most suited for. Unless you are specifically looking for a "Land Race" strain (original, natural strain) you will find that 99% of all the strains out there are blends Indica, Sativa, or both. Indica/Sativa crosses are typically either Indica dominant or Sativa dominant, meaning the primary traits of the blend lean to the typical effects of one or the other. Developing a new, stable strain takes many, many plant generations. It is really as simple as allowing a male plant to fertilize a female plant of a different strain..then the real work starts. I do not suggest this unless you've had some experience. No need for me to list all the medicinal strains, as there are numerous websites that have excellent listings. http://www.medicalmarijuanastrains.com/strain-guide/ ...TBC
I know nothing about marajuana/cannabis nor will I pretend too, but the ones and only time I tried it was in college and not only did it cost me a beautiful girlfriend at the time but I went home shortly thereafter and blew Chunks if you know what I mean!! Nice to read this and get educated about the stuff!!!
^^^^it was my worst nightmare because you don't understand, CHUNkS was my dog!!!! I could take a puff on the magic dragon right now with the work related stress. Don't get me started with wife and SIL tag team. Stress is taking 10 years off my life.
Wait, you blew Chunks? I thought you meant you got violently ill when I tried it. I don't understand why it didn't help me when others are raving about the wonder effects and promoting its use.
I was so messed up that night. Drinking, weed and big dip of skoal tobacco between my cheek and gum, not recommended and too too it all off my frat brother doing the same thing shot his dog/Doberman out in the backyard because he thought it was a deer. Awful night. I never saw that girl again and we dated almost a year.
Question Mike related to using a tincture. Is the experience more similar to using a vaporizer or is it more similar to using an edible? My question really is... is the cannabis being delivered to the blood stream sublingually or via the digestive system? Does the effect last for hours like an edible? Or is it fairly short lived like when vaporizing?
Also, same question related to the onset of relief. Edibles provide relief in a delayed fassion, while vaporizing provides relief in minutes. How does a tincture behave in that regard? Thanks for your help.
I actually got so pissed off today that I googled and called The Weed Man! Not knowing exactly what I was getting into but hoping he could discuss with me the different types of weed and strains and hopefully help me with my issues. Well well well it was not what I thought, he showed up with a 600 gallon tank on the back of of a flat bed truck filled with pesticides and fertilizers and a 300 foot hose. Bad experience with The Weed Man!!! Not what I thought. Where can I find A good weed man? Any recommendations? You know for menieres, not my lawn!
Hi Bea, You got it right: "the cannabis being delivered to the blood stream sublingually" Smoking, vaping and tinctures are the best "need help now" options. The alcohol with the infused cannabis enters the blood stream quickly when using a tincture. When we need help (vertigo attack imminent), waiting for some other method of use to take effect isn't a good option. Edibles: Mainly for control of pain, and very much a "body" effect. Edibles will take 20-40 minutes before taking effect. This would not give you the max benefit for ear related issues.
Hey Mike my friend, that was Vitolony you quoted and answered not Bumblebea/Bea!! That is a good example of my hesitation to start puffing on the magic dragon with 3 little kids in the house because it would be an absolute disaster for me to start calling my wife her sisters name and my SIL my wife's name. There would be WWIII here in Dunwoody, Ga. And then the next thing you know I am calling my 70 year old mother Baby Doll, Sweat Pea or even Sugar Plums. I would have to leave the state. PS: on a serious note, how does one even go about asking or approaching their doctor about Mary Jane? I thought it was used for pain but I have no pain and most people don't with mm. Is there a list of illnesses that are already approved for its use or is it available to anybody for any illness?