Cannibis Treatment for Meniere's

Discussion in 'Your Living Room' started by Jaeger, Jul 27, 2015.

  1. Vicki

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    Interesting point Bea.
     
  2. MargaretYakoda

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    Well, I'm still using tincture. I'm seriously considering going after a Washington State card. This would give me the ability to grow it, which would be a huge savings.

    I am a little concerned about Washington's new law which takes effect in 2016 that states it's illegal to make any cannabis concentrates without a producer license.

    OK slightly different subject:
    When I was researching getting the medical cannabis I found two articles written by a Dr in Washington State who does a lot of MMJ authorizations. They have some pretty good info.

    https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9q4xlRr106wUkZYT2dpckp2eU0/edit

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_UT5Afv8J6vnnnnt9720GFhfC8PF8K5m7thTM_b-D-4/edit
     
  3. Vicki

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    informative papers. The first link you posted on page 5 backs up the studies and articles I have read and posted in this thread.
    the Dr states:

    "Smoking marijuana can lead to acute and chronic bronchitis, immunological impairment, and precancerous changes."

    But as with any treatment it is an individual choice and each person needs to decide for his or her self if the benefits out weigh the risks for them.
    I don't think its a matter of a right or wrong decision, just people need to be aware of the facts and risks with any type of treatment they are considering.

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  4. MargaretYakoda

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    Yes, individual choice. But I do want to emphasize that the Dr who wrote that paper was pretty clear that he recommends edibles or tinctures. He acknowledged that smoking was better for a few patients, but he really really prefers his patients not to smoke if they can avoid it at all.

    I know for myself, the tincture - which I learned about in this thread - has changed my life. No more nausea, and my anxiety level is way down!
     
  5. Vicki

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    I don't think symptom relief was ever challenged and I think most if not all of us acknowledge pot has been help proven to with various symptoms and illnesses, its the long term effects that have been questioned, and the Dr's statement about the risks concur with the risks I have been posting.

    We agree it is an individuals choice to choose a treatment. People make better choices for themselves when they know all the facts.

    I am happy to hear you are feeling better, and found a treatment that helps you :)
     
  6. scott tom

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    I get high occasionally, and it makes me feel great. It does feel like a "cure". Until you start taking it every day. Then it begins to act differently. I find that if i get high 3-4 days in a row, i find that i start losing touch with reality, don't feel as close to my family and friends as i used to, and have anxiety.
     
  7. Bulldogs

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    Somebody please pass me the bong or better yet roll me a big fat doobie. I'm having a tad bit of anxiety tonight
     
  8. MikeB

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    Ya know..of all the crap we Menarian's have to deal with, I do think
    the anxiety is the worst. Sitting around and not feeling too well, and
    just waiting for the "other shoe to drop" when the vertigo visits.

    Bongs are bad for your lungs, and I don't smoke doobies but on rare
    occasion, however I will smoke a bowl tonight in your honor. 8)

    The immune system suppression from Cannabis is very minimal, and
    not a concern unless you are a heavy, long term user, and even then
    not an issue if a person takes care of themselves. AIDS patients use
    it still, as the benefit outweighs the risks.

    If you sit around on the couch watching TV and eating bon-bons by
    the box while also smoking joint after joint (or not), ones body is going
    to get out of shape, meaning a weaker immune system. Take care of
    your body, eat right and get some exercise when you can.

    Acyclovir is often used by Menarian's, and with some great successes.
    Have you ever read the drug info for it? Here's just a few of the
    potential side effects:

    http://www.drugs.com/sfx/acyclovir-side-effects.html

    I'm glad to hear that the tincture is helping... 8)

    As for the Med card, my advice would be to save your $$. LEO
    is not going to come knocking your door down to see if you have
    2 oz. instead of 1, not to mention that you'd wind up in databases
    that you really don't want your information in.

    A tincture is not a concentrate, so that should not be a concern.
    Even if you were making a concentrate, making it in your home
    (or garage), keeping it in your home, and using it in your home
    means the only people that even know about it are you and whoever
    lives in your home, and they damn sure ain't gonna turn you in for
    having something that makes you feel better.

    Bea: Was the joint of the same strain as the MJ you vaped?

    Personal observation: My state of mind, location, etc. all can play
    a part. I only smoke in one place, and that's my shop that's built into
    my garage, and then only when the day is done, meaning I've got all
    the chores and activity done for the day.

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    Sorry I've been away for a few days, but there are times when life
    gets in the way of things. I still want to get some info up about strains,
    where they come from, etc. In the meantime those interested might try
    a Google search for "Marijuana Seeds", and then read up on some of the
    strains, as they usually provide info on the strains genetics, effects, growing
    time, etc.
     
  9. BumbleBea

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    It was the same strain and not a joint but a pipe.
     
  10. Vicki

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    there are several long term studies on the safety and efficacy of antivirals (5, 10, 20 years) you can search the forums for them I have posted them several times.
     
  11. scott tom

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    Antivirals have an amazing success rate for MM and have minimal side effects. Completely worth it. Plus, they are controlled in that each and every dose is exactly the same.

    If weed worked to stop the vertigo, I would tout it. But it didn't work for me. I do not see a long list of folks here saying it worked for them like antivirals.
     
  12. BumbleBea

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    That was my opinion in my last posts before the one above.

    I agree whole heartedly.
     
  13. Vicki

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    It seems pot is helping people with anxiety and depression, but I don't recall anyone saying it prevents their vertigo attacks, but its a long thread I might have overlooked that.
     
  14. vitolony

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    I posted several posts referencing a relatively significant body of data relating the fact that a lot of people successfully use cannabis as a primary means of treatment for Meniere's disease because it not only helps them deal with the anxiety, but it also removes the vertigo for many. That is probably a strain dependent equation but an important thing to note when making a decision about this substance. Not to mention the 3 separate studies I posted talking about the effectiveness of THC against the herpes virus. Why have you ignored that?
     
  15. scott tom

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    My anxiety and depression went bye bye with the vertigo. :)
     
  16. BumbleBea

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    Don't you realize that you're being adversarial towards Vicki?
    Why can't we have this discussion without remarks such as, "why have you ignored that?"
    If you don't agree with a particular persons views, couldn't you just "ignore them and continue on? It would be a shame to see this whole thread deleted.
     
  17. vitolony

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    Why? Because she has presumed to have something to say about this issue, yet it seems that she hasn't actually read the actual thread. She has never even acknowledged the fact that cannabis is good medicine for the most likely cause/source of our disease yet she wants others to take her point of view seriously. Why? There are other concerns, other things to be aware of, to be sure. It just doesn't seem to me that she is taking an honest look at the issue. Thus my question about having ignored important details regarding the subject matter.
     
  18. vitolony

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    That's not adversarial. It's just an honest question.
     
  19. vitolony

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    And heck. Perhaps I am wrong and she hasn't ignored anything. Perhaps she simply just never read the posts I made regarding THC's effectiveness against the herpes virus and it's not a matter of intentionally ignoring the subject matter, but rather innocent ignorance of the subject matter. I mean, isn't that the holy grail on this forum, tools that work against this debilitating damned disease, and more specifically, tools that are effective against the herpes virus? Why isn't that a more interesting point to her? I don't understand.
     
  20. vitolony

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    I have no vested interest in other's choosing to use cannabis, other than the fact that I like it when people overcome this disease and I think cannabis gives them as good a chance of that as anything. It gives me joy. What doesn't make sense to me is when someone is unwilling to give something a fair shake without having at least read all the available data. If Vicki has in fact read the stuff I posted and knows about THC's effectiveness against the herpes virus and still thinks it's a bad idea, then that becomes a more legitimate point of view. I might not agree with it, but at least it is fully informed. That's all I'm after here. I want to know that she has seen just how effective cannabis actually is (based on the data I've posted) at treating the CAUSE of this disease, before dismissing it, or encouraging others to dismiss it.
     

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