Cannibis Treatment for Meniere's

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  1. MargaretYakoda

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    Please don't take this the wrong way.. I think you're trying to be funny here, but it's coming off as a bit disrespectful.

    The reality of Meniere's means we're sometimes mistaken for drunks even when we're sober and can't drink because booze is a trigger. Adding stoner jokes to the burden for folks who legally and with their Dr's approval use cannabis to relieve their MD symptoms is adding insult to injury.

    Again, I'm pretty sure you're making these jokes innocently. But I'd personally consider it a kindness if you'd help to keep this thread focused on the serious issue of using cannabis as medicine. There's plenty of other places on the web to go for stoner funnies.
     
  2. MikeB

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    RSO is a highly concentrated form, so by adding it to your
    tincture you just increased the strength about 50x.

    A few drops under the tongue is about gets the med into
    the blood stream about as fast as anything else, plus there's
    no way I could ever fill a vape bag when in the middle of a
    bad attack..tincture is easy.
     
  3. Bulldogs

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    These are not meant to be funny or jokes, only my real life experiences of puffing on the Mary Jane as a Menieres sufferer.

    You can really help me put by providing me with the name, practice, location and phone number of your doctor who is prescribing marajuana for you. I have great insurance and will travel the world for the best medical care possible. The teenager down the street where I buy mine from is erratic in his supply chain and many times I feel lost, disoriented, psychotic, suicidal, aggressive and even hear voices on my head when I puff on his quarter bags.

    So with all due respect, I am finding my way just like you and could really use the name, number, location and phone number of your physician who is helping you with the cannabis treatment?

    This is a forum for sharing so please post that information or pm me because I will make an appointment first thing in the morning tomorrow.

    Sincerely,


    Joe
     
  4. MargaretYakoda

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    Well, now I know what the "bull" in your user name really stands for...

    First off, no. You DON'T have insurance good enough to cover medical cannabis. How do I know this? Because NOBODY does. Insurance doesn't cover it. So, save your money and stay home.

    Second, do you live in a state that has a medical cannabis law? If not, you're going to have to move. Because every state where medical cannabis is legal only allows authorizations for residents. You can't travel out of state for an authorization.
    And, as if that's not enough of a restriction, you need to be in a state where nausea is one of the qualifying conditions. Since I don't know where you live, I'll let you do your own research on that. http://norml.org/states

    Third, no. I won't share who my Dr is. That's personal information that I just do not feel comfortable sharing in a public forum. And it's astoundingly rude of you to have even asked.

    Fourth, if you're feeling psychotic when you smoke cannabis, then it's probably from an unreliable source and you should stop purchasing from that source immediately.
     
  5. MargaretYakoda

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    I should be more clear about adding the RSO to my tincture. I did NOT add the entire package of RSO. I added only a fraction. If anyone chooses to add RSO to a tincture, treat it like hot peppers. LOL. Not much is needed.

    And, to be very honest, I'm only adding it because I'm not particularly good at making tinctures yet. It's easy, yes, but getting ratios figured out is a beginner's problem, and I'm still a beginner. :D
     
  6. Bulldogs

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    That is very very upsetting to me that you imply that about my username and totally uncalled for, I did not in any way get personal with you or denigrate you in any way personally . I would appreciate it if you do not do that again on a personal basid.

    I will answer your questions in a respectful manner
    There is a thread where people share doctors for many things in this forum including surgery, anti-vitals and I have even gotten information about from people about cochlear implants on this forum.

    If you are to tally committed to cannabis treatment for menieres then one should share information on Dr's that beieve in the treatment protocol, it can only help others as sharing doctors names and locations who use antival treatment . But that is up to you, but not intended to be offensive for those looking for a treatment that helps.

    Thirdly, about the insurance thing, being married to pediatric oncologist here in Atlanta i am sure she
    would/could be more than willing to do what she can for me including contacting any doctors if there were any clinical evidence of cannabis curing mm symptoms, unfortunately she has not been willing to give me any so I have to get it off the street.

    Feel free to contact me @ 404-408-3515 and I will pass the phone off to her so you help me out and speak to her about the benefits of cannabis for mm treatment. She is very open minded as will listen, she has tried to help several local sufferers on this forum in the Atlanta by writing antiviral prescriotions for people when their oto's would not and they did get relief of symptoms and she continues to help them. I am in Atlanta!

    Feel free to reach out but please do not get personal with names as I have never done such a thing to you

    Regards
     
  7. MargaretYakoda

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    The fact that the federal government classifies cannabis as having no medical use at all hinders study of cannabis. It is relatively well established that cannabinoids are anti-inflammatory. That said, there have been some published studies that seem to indicate that cannabis works as an antiviral.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1848937?dopt=Abstract

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3010327
     
  8. MargaretYakoda

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    All your posts in this thread have been nothing more than crude jokes.
    This is disrespectful to people who are using medical cannabis. Would you make the same jokes about people being stoned on valium, because they use it to alleviate their meniere's symptoms? I doubt it.

    You've also been contradictory in this thread as to whether or not you use cannabis at all. Considering how you describe being high, I suspect you don't use it. If you honestly do use cannabis, then you're getting hold of some badly adulterated stuff and you should throw it out and never purchase from that source again. Seriously.

    This is called "derailing."

    No. I don't have to share any information. Information on medical cannabis is easy enough for anyone to find on the web. The anti-nausea effect of cannabis is well established. And I did provide a link for you in my previous post that you could have easily used to look up information pertinent to your state.

    Furthermore, information on Drs who prescribe in my state is completely useless to you. Considering you live in Georgia, I'll say good luck finding any Dr who will prescribe it to you, because the only cannabis that is legal in Georgia is CBD only, and it's only prescribed for intractable seizure disorders. And, as if that wasn't restrictive enough, there are no legal producers in Georgia, so there is no legal way for anyone to actually obtain the CBD oil.
    https://www.mpp.org/states/georgia/

    I am surprised that an oncologist is unfamiliar with the anti-nausea use of cannabis. She should at least be familiar with the anti-seizure effect of cannabinoids? In either case, since she isn't an insurance agent, I doubt she can help you - or anyone - get their insurance to pay for medical cannabis. Especially since (as far as I am aware) there are no insurance policies that authorize medical cannabis.

    No.
    I am NOT in Georgia, and I don't need any out of state prescriptions. If you want to hear from local people about the benefits of medical cannabis, I suggest you begin by contacting people in Georgia. Perhaps contact the people who helped pass the Haleigh’s Hope Act?

    No. You haven't called me any names. You have only repeatedly treated the subject of medical cannabis like an overlong Cheech and Chong joke. Which is not just disrespectful to me, it's disrespectful to anyone who uses cannabis to alleviate their symptoms. Not just meniere's, but cancer, epilepsy and many, many other conditions.

    So, I ask again: Stop doing that. Please.
     
  9. Bulldogs

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    I'll give you the last word and wish you luck in your journey with mm.

    I am a fan of the laby as that is how I cured my mm.

    Good luck

    Regards,
     
  10. MargaretYakoda

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    Well, as a peace offering, I'll share a very interesting case study I just read. It has nothing whatsoever to do with meniere's, but it does discuss Rick Simpson Oil (highly concentrated cannabis oil) as it was used to treat a young patient with a severe form of leukemia that hadn't had success with conventional cancer treatments. Perhaps your wife would find it to be an interesting read.

    http://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/356446#AC

    tl:dr The teenage girl died, but it was a side effect of the previous treatments that ultimately killed her. The cannabis was actually curing her at the time of her passing.
     
  11. scott tom

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    If you are cured, then why are you seeking relief via marijuana? What are you seeking relief from?
     
  12. BumbleBea

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    This is an interesting topic as I've said before.

    It also can become very controversial as we've seen before.

    We all have our own opinions and are entitled to express them here.

    If any one person takes something the wrong way and makes it personal, it leads to what could be the downfall of this thread entirely. That can be avoided by not stooping to name calling and maligning someone's character.

    BTW- I know what the BULL stands for...and it's not bullshit.
     
  13. Bulldogs

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    I di not need a lecture on Cannibal treatment and cancer, especially being married to an oncologist.

    Things are far more advanced than Cannibis, She and Dr. GROUP are partners and developers of cuttingedge treatment at CHOP (CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL OF Philadelphia ) which involves re-engineered t cells coated in aids virus to cure reoccurring leukemia in children.

    Emily Whitehead is/was her patient and Dr. Grupp her partner. She is now implementating the process at Emory and hopefully soon in a hospital near you. Novartis is helping.

    Google " curing leukemia with hiv virus" that is the work of Dr. Group and the lady sleepimg in the bed next to me as I type this!!!!!

    I don't need a lecture about cancer.

    Read for yourself about the treatment.
     
  14. Bulldogs

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    Have you met my sister in law, ISIS would not accept her application.
     
  15. MargaretYakoda

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    ... And can also be avoided by treating this thread seriously, instead of treating the idea of medical cannabis like a big joke.

    As I said earlier, we have enough to deal with. Being looked upon as a malingerer because we need to take too many days off work. Being suspected of being drunk because we wobble when we walk, or fall down suddenly. I've had family members accuse me of being hung over due to spinning, nausea and vomiting. Family members.

    The stigma of using medical cannabis is a real thing.
    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/02791072.2014.991858
    I think this thread can help remove that stigma as long as we keep treating the subject seriously.

    For what it's worth, that's one big reason why I use the term "medical cannabis" instead of marijuana (which has a strong racist history) or any of the slang terms which are nearly 100% associated with stoner culture.
     
  16. MargaretYakoda

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    OK. I get it. I thought it was an interesting paper. It wasn't a "lecture" Your mileage varied.

    Just, please, take this thread seriously? Please?
     
  17. Bulldogs

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    I will bow out of this thread.

    Good luck to everybody and my wish is for everybody to find relief no matter how they do it.

    See ya!!!!!

    Regards
     
  18. Vicki

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    many serious threads on these forums has some light hearted posts, Bulldogs comment about his SIL gave me a good giggle. Given what we all deal with plus the other situations of life I appreciate a good chuckle.
     
  19. redwing1951

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    I totally agree with Vicki. Lghten up folks we are all capable of understanding what is serious and what is light hearted fun.
     
  20. BumbleBea

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    I can always count on the two of you to put a perfect perspective on things and to say it so much better than I.
     

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