Well, 2.5 months after starting John's regime + antivirals I've now gone a whole week without dizzyness and I'm feeling a hell of a lot better in general. Saying that this is how things go with me that I have the symptoms and sometimes they just go but this time the "bad patch" had lasted since August. The real test will be if I can stay dizzy free from now on. I also recently got some mould sorted in my bathroom after reading about how others on the forum were affected by this. Saying that I've been dizzy when living in other parts of the country, far away from the mould. I also just finished a course of acupuncture treatment which my wife talked me in to, but I give it around a 0.0001% chance of being the reason. Anyway, I'll give an update again in a couple of months but I'd just like to say thanks again to John for getting this together. For now I'm just enjoying being dizzy free and with energy again. Vince
It's now over 2 months dizzy free on John O's regime + Valtrex. Even if I go back to dizzy again I think I'd carry on with the regime as I just feel so much better in general. Thanks again John!! Vince
Great news Beanz! JOH - can you mix/match the brand name of the supplements? I buy some from Vitacost, Amazon, and Walmart.
If the products are equivalent to those listed in the regimen write-up (http://www.zoominternet.net/~kcshop/JOH.pdf) then there is no problem. For example, lysine is lysine. MSM has no differing formulations, etc. But there are only a short list of authentic lemon bioflavonoids that can work. They are listed in the PDF. --John of Ohio
You can probably save a lot of pills and money by just taking the valtrex. There is no empirical evidence that adding the JOH provides any additional benefit.
Hi Scott I guess there are lots of ways of looking at things but firstly, I believe there is empirical evidence for the JOH given that lots of people do seem to find it a benefit. But sure there are no actual studies done but the way I look at is that before I felt really bad and now I feel good so I'm not about to go changing anything quickly. Of the cost, 95% is on the Valtrex as the others are pennies. If the other products aren't solving my Meniere's then at least they are making my hair glossy . . . or something. Any product has the potential for side effects but you've probably got more chance of winning the national lottery than getting something from L-Lysine and Bioflavenoids. Really, I'm just happy to be feeling ok and I have pointed out a couple of times that my one vote is not a confirmation that this is some kind of cure. I'm also on the maintenance dose now so I'm sure others take more of and more harmful products for purely cosmetic reasons. Finally, when I started this I would probably have taken anything if someone had told me it was good for Meniere's. Vince
No “empirical evidence?” Aside from the over 200 very positive accounts (of significant or complete symptomatic relief) I have from users of the regimen, the “evidence” of the efficacy of the components (in part) is the following: lysine — absolutely known to suppress herpes virus replication, as evidenced by the thousands upon thousands who have used it to effectively suppress, reverse, or control herpes-caused cold cores, genital sores, Bell’s palsy, and shingles. lemon bioflavonoids – known to increase microcirculation by dilation of capillaries, which facilitates nutrient and fluid exchange between blood vessels and inflamed tissues (such as the inner ear in Meniere’s). A study at the Mayo Clinic has shown this. vinpocetine – it also increases microcirculation, but by a different mechanism than the lemon bioflavonoids; particularly in the inner ear. Vinpocetine, known as caviton in the East, is the drug of choice for Meniere’s in Russia and Eastern Europe. Russian cosmonauts are administered caviton, while American astronauts are given nothing of the kind. Consequently, cosmonauts have reduced or absent episodes of “space sickness,” vertigo in weightlessness, compared to astronauts. Vinpocetine facilitates normal inner ear function. Gingko extract — facilitates, promotes permeability for fluids and nutrients in the inner ear MSM – well documented in reducing allergic reactions vitamin E complex – is known to support proper immune responses, particularly to viral loads sustained vitamin C – vitamin C is known to be antiherpetic, at adequate concentrations. In contrast, treatment of Meniere’s with a single antiherpetic drug, such as acyclovir, as able to address only a single factor in the multiple conditions that elicit Meniere’s symptoms. The causative virus is suppressed and is inactivated. But the hydrops, tinnitus, and other Meniere’s symptoms must then resolve themselves solely by innate body processes — healing, as it were. The elements of my regimen (beyond the lysine) promote and facilitate this healing — for which there is ample “evidence.” --John of Ohio
JOH, this week I've started with the Vitamin C, and I think it's bothering my stomach a little. It could be that I'm weaning myself off of Nexium though. Do you think I could cut the amount of Vitamin C? Also, I'm going on steroids for the next few days. Do you see any interactions with any of the regimen?
Cut back to one sustained-release vitamin C per day, and see if your stomach gets better. There are no reactions or interferences between the components of the regimen and steroid drugs. --John of Ohio
Let me clarify. There is no empirical evidence that adding the JOH provides any additional benefit (Beyond that already provided by antivirals). My meds cost $5 per month. I find no need to waste money on more pills that may or may not actually contain what they claim to contain. But to each his own. If you're getting perceived benefits, then more power to you!
But I think it's a bit of a problem of semantics here. Empirical evidence is that provided by observation or experience, and of that there is a lot given the number of people on this forum who have been helped by the JOH. There is also theory and logic behind the regime as provided by John in the previous post. What there isn't is say a double blind or peer reviewed study and I think this is what you mean. And actually, I don't believe there has been such a study on the effects of Valtrex on Meniere's either. But if you're getting Valtrex at $5 a month, could you let me know where from as I'm paying a fortune.
Hi Beanz I am not claiming that JOH doesn't help. I am simply stating that there is no evidence that it helps IN ADDITION TO antivirals. Antivirals does it all. What else could JOH do? I'm not opposed to JOH. My doctor and i tried it. She tried it with about two dozens other patients. None of us found relief. So her "success rate" is 0%. This is just my opinion. Pretty meaningless in the whole scheme of things and not meant to be offensive or personal. I am glad that you are finding relief, no matter how it comes. I pay $5 after insurance. I have BCBS.