orange juice and baked beans

story of my life Franky. My problem is........I forget, plus, I'm a friggin gluten for punishment something terrible!!!

 

so sorry to hear that Frank, but glad you identified them for triggers.
Dolfan I hope you start feeling better.
I did know about beans and read about oj on MAV forums.
I found a decent webpage that lists food that are okay and foods to avoid and both oranges and many types of beans are listed for foods to avoid. This may help someone.
http://www.migrainedisorders.org/migraine-safe-foods-by-category/

Migraine safe foods by category

BREAD
Acceptable purchases: Any white, wheat, rye or pumpernickel store-bought bread.
Plain or sesame seed bagels, English muffins, quick breads like pumpernickel or zucchini breads.
All yeast bread must be 24 hours old.
What to avoid: Fresh baked bread, either homemade or from the grocer’s bakery, fresh donuts, fresh breakfast Danish, nut breads, cheese bread, chocolate bread, raisin bread, bagels with dried fruit like blueberry or cranberry bagels. Remember that pizza is fresh bread.

CEREAL
Acceptable purchases: Many cereals are fine. For example: Cheerios, Life, Honey Bunches of Oats, Cracklin’ Bran, Frosted Flakes, Frosted Shredded Wheat.
What to avoid: Cereal with nuts, raisins, chocolate, dried fruit, aspartame, peanut butter or coconut.

CRACKERS
Acceptable purchases: Any unflavored cracker such as Saltines, Ritz, Wheat thins, Carr’s Table Crackers and Club crackers.
What to avoid: Cheddar cheese crackers, Chick-in-a-bisket, any flavored cracker.

PRETZELS/CHIPS
Acceptable purchases: All plain pretzels and plain potato chips, Tostitos 100% corn chips, Frito’s corn chips, Herr’s salt and vinegar chips.
What to avoid: Soft pretzels, honey and mustard pretzels, onion and garlic pretzels or other seasoned pretzels. Avoid Pringles, Doritos Nacho chips, jalapeno chips and most other seasoned chips.

PIES/CAKES/COOKIES/CANDY
Acceptable purchases: Blueberry and apple store bought pies if made without lemon juice, vanilla or cinnamon swirl cake, shortbread cookies and vanilla/strawberry wafers, oatmeal cookies without the raisins, rice pudding (no raisins), white chocolate.
What to avoid: Chocolate, chocolate candy, nuts, buttermilk, sour cream, dried fruit (some apricot pies start with dried apricots), peanut butter, lemon extract or lemon juice, almond extract and coconut. Avoid diet and sugar-free products that contain aspartame.

SALAD DRESSING
Acceptable purchases: Any oil and distilled white vinegar. (Homemade ranch is good but you won’t find that in the grocery store).
What to avoid: most bottled dressings have one or many of the following; monosodium glutamate, onion or onion powder, grated cheese like Romano or parmesan, natural flavoring, red wine vinegar or balsamic vinegar (or anything other than white).

DIPS/SAUCES
Acceptable purchases: buy ingredients to make your own at home.
What to avoid: dips and sauces usually contain MSG (natural flavoring) or onions. Avoid salsa, chips dips, tomato sauce like Ragu, alfredo or pesto sauce, gravy, mustard dips, barbeque sauce and guacamole (because of the avocados).

MEAT AND MAIN MEALS
Acceptable purchases: Fresh chicken, beef, veal, lamb, fish, turkey or pork. (Some sausage is made without MSG, natural flavor or onion). Be sure the meat is not injected with a tenderizer (like Hatfield’s Simple Tender pork products) or with broth (some turkey and chicken).
What to avoid: Beef liver and chicken liver, marinated meat, ready-made hot wings, barbeque chicken, breaded meat like fried chicken or nuggets or breaded chicken patties, seasoned rotisserie chicken, and any ready-made meal of meat, noodle or rice like burritos, lasagna, Rice-a-Roni and Hamburger Helper. Any canned tuna with broth. Anchovies. Spam. Canned soups have MSG and sometimes onions. Avoid nitrites in ham, hot dogs and most lunchmeats.

DAIRY PRODUCTS
Acceptable purchases: Deli American cheese, American cheese with jalapeno peppers, cottage cheese, ricotta cheese and cream cheese. White milk is ok.
What to avoid: Aged cheeses like Cheddar, Monterey Jack, Colby and Swiss. Avoid mozzarella cheese, Brie, sour cream buttermilk and yogurt. Beware of products made with cheese like pizza and hot pockets. Avoid chocolate milk due to the caffeine.

FRUITS/JUICES
Acceptable purchases: Fresh strawberries, apples, pears, grapes, peaches, nectarines, blueberries, kiwi, apricots, blackberries, cherries, cantaloupes, mangoes, honeydew melon and watermelon.
What to avoid: Bananas, oranges, grapefruit, lemons, limes, tangerines, pineapples, Clementines, raspberries, plums, papayas, passion fruit, figs, dates, raisins and avocados. Also avoid dried fruits preserved with sulfites.

VEGETABLES
Acceptable purchases: Preservative-free bagged lettuce like Fresh Express, peppers, zucchini, eggplant, garlic, leeks, spring onions, shallots, potatoes (fresh), some frozen mashed potatoes, broccoli, asparagus, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, carrots, corn, chick peas, mushrooms, canned or frozen peas, yams, string beans, artichokes, red beets, some beans, okra, plain rice, turnips and squash.
What to avoid: Onions, sauerkraut, pea pods, broad Italian beans, lima beans, fava beans, navy beans and lentils. Also avoid boxed potato flakes, like instant mashed potatoes.

DRINKS
Acceptable purchases: Naturally decaffeinated coffee or tea, caffeine-free herb tea like chamomile, pear juice, apple juice, grape juice, cranberry juice, apricot nectar, caffeine-free Coke/Pepsi, Diet Rite Cola, Waist Watcher Cola/Diet Rootbeer/Diet Black Cherry, Mug Rootbeer, Hires Rootbeer and A&W Rootbeer. Diet soda using sucralose (Splenda) is not a problem. Vodka is the best tolerated alcoholic beverage. White milk is ok.
What to avoid: Coffee, tea, coffee substitutes, hot chocolate, colas, orange soda, lemon lime soda, mountain Dew, any diet soda containing aspartame or saccharin, Barq’s Rootbeer, (they add caffeine to it), chocolate milk, wine, champagne, beer, heavy alcoholic drinks.

NUTS/SEEDS/POPCORN
Acceptable purchases: Unflavored popcorn that you pop at home, pumpkins seeds, sunflower seeds without natural flavor, sesame seeds and poppy seeds.
What to avoid: Cheddar cheese popcorn, some microwave popcorn, all nuts and nut butters, including peanuts. Coconut is out as well as almond extract.

SOY PRODUCTS
Acceptable purchases: Any soy is questionable, so you might want to avoid it altogether until you have achieved headache control. Then try the following products one at a time: soy milk, soy flour, plain tofu and soy oil.
What to avoid: Soy sauce, miso, tempeh, soy burgers, products containing soy protein isolate or concentrate and soy beans.

 

jaypr, thanks so much for bringing OJ and Beans to us MAVER's attention. Between MM and MAV there are so many food triggers its hard to remember them all and keep track.

 

I hear ya jaypr, until we have a cure for both, we will always have to be vigilant about food triggers for MM or MAV and our thresholds and at any time when we don't even realize we ate the wrong thing or ate too much of it ...BAM!
But now you know that OJ and or Beans being a trigger food for you and that's a good thing

 

Jaypr

Isn’t that a bit like the police naming a number of people that they would like to help them with their enquiries. It casts a slur without any supporting evidence. I don’t see either product on Vicki’s list above.

Could it be related to reduced trigger levels from other foods? or stress related? What portion sizes were involved? Were the baked beans the reduced sugar and salt variety? Was this the first time that you had tried either in 7 years?

Having consulted Buchholz he lists most citrus fruits and their juices as well as bananas, and yet some of us are consumers of both without problems. I cannot see any specific reference to baked beans.

I ask these questions because I am a regular user of both substances and have a MAV component to my MM.

 

yellow, oranges (under fruits to avoid) and many different beans are listed on the avoidance lists (vegetables to avoid) I posted. Beans have always been a trigger food for me and oranges have been mentioned as a trigger food on the MAV forums by several. I beleive with MAV its mostly about threshold, the amount of trigger foods you eat.

 

I should add some may be so sensitive to trigger foods that total avoidance may be best for them, for me as long as I don't go over my threshold I am okay eating trigger foods now and then in small amounts.

 

ugh wish there was an edit I forgot to mention navy beans are on the avoidance list I posted and those are what baked beans are usually made from.

 

A full English breakfast is not a healthy option for anyone, let alone someone trying to stay within salt, cholesterol and migraine trigger food guidelines. You put your head in the beast’s mouth there. Luckily he only gave you a nip!

I would think that anything you eat during the rest of the day could prove to be the tipping point that pulls the vertigo trigger. In that sense I would not single out baked beans and orange juice any more than say, the salty processed meats like the bacon and sausages.

As you say there is no doubt that the whole MAV process is one of frustration and individual trial and error, even by the looks of it, seven years on!

 

Salt is not listed anywhere that I can find as a MAV trigger.
Given jaypr has been dealing with MAV for 7 years if not more and given the 2 foods he ate for the first time in 7 years was followed by an attack, and given those 2 foods are on the avoidance list, I would have to agree with jaypr that the OJ or beans or both triggered his attack. Whether it was due to them pushing him over his threshold or he is more sensitive to those trigger foods, either way OJ and beans are trigger foods for migraines and I trust jaypr judgement in knowing his own trigger foods and thresholds better than anyone else.

 

Hi jaypr

It is very good of you to commit to another English breakfast, especially as it is in the interests of science. I shall await the results with interest. In the meantime I shall continue to avoid/limit my intake of salty and/or processed foods, whilst continuing to enjoy a small daily orange juice (100ml) and weekly baked beans on toast.

 

I think the point of jayprs posts, correct me if I am wrong, was to point out that OJ and beans are MAV trigger foods, whether they push you over your threshold or can add to reaching a threshold.

It is hard to remember all the trigger foods especially if you have MM and MAV.

OJ and beans are not one that readily come to mind, at least not to my mind.

Yellow, like you I can enjoy small amounts now and then of my trigger foods, the whole trick is not keep everything under our personal threshold.

 

Agreed. Why I am coming to the defence of certain foodstuffs I do not know, other than that they are regulars of mine.

We should just be glad that we don’t have to avoid everything on the list, because that would lead to a terribly dull existence.

 

You are so right yellow, being that restricted all the time would be horrible.