Olive Leaf Extract for Meniere’s

John.monolaurin is a derivative from coconut oil not palm oil.

 

That's really interesting. Thank you for posting John.

 

I figured it was just a typo and thanks for the great post!

 

I just gotta say. We are all so lucky to have two amazingly, wonderful people on this Forum. Oh, wait, I'm going to give this its own thread.........

 

If I had active Meniere’s symptoms, as I did when testing all the things in my oft-revised and improved regimen (http://www.zoominternet.net/~kcshop/JOH.pdf), I’d be trying this right now. Not very expensive, few or no side effects; with many additional health benefits.

One last thought. It seems that OLE might also be able to increase the viral-suppressing traits of both prescription antiherpetics and the lysine in my regimen (and, perhaps, also with monolaurin). In the five years or so it took for me to devise my regimen, it was clear from the start that no single substance would give adequate relief. The regimen takes a number of substances that work synergistically. OLE might be a new synergistic treatment element, to be used along with other, more conventional things.

I encourage those, who wish, to give this a try, and let readers know your experiences.

But as with all Meniere’s treatments, useful or applicable results aren’t likely to appear in just a week or two. Probably takes one or two months for OLE to suppress herpes virus activity. So, persist — then let us know how this anti-viral supplement worked.

–John of Ohio
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Very interesting post, John. I have been on valacyclovir since Dec 1st. 3,000 mg for the month of December, 2,000 mg in Jan, and back to 3,000 mg in Feb and March. I have had extreme stress in February and March, so I felt it was necessary to increase my dosage. I am still getting some vertigo although it is not as bad as before, but I am frustrated that I am still getting attacks. Maybe a supplement of Monoluarin or Olive Leaf would help get me to a point where I can reduce my valacyclovir to 1,000 or 2,000 mg permanently. My ENT really does not agree with it and has been good about letting me stay on it this long. But I know that he will want to lower the dose. He doesn't like the "high" dosage.
What do think would be best to try first? Thanks so much for your input!!

 

Muff don't be discourage because allergy season sets off Meniere's symptoms. I was told by Dr Gacek to increase my antiviral during allergy season.
I have done so every year during March, April and May until the pollen count drops.

I have not done so yet this year I am waiting to see if I need to, since I have been on an investigational allergy treatment for my food allergies which eliminated my seasonal allergies symptoms.

It should be interesting to see if this allergy season still affects my MM symptoms.

 

Muff, just to share what is beginning to work for me.

I have been taking JOH since the beginning of January and AV since the end of January. I was still getting attacks, they were less severe but they were there. More than 3 weeks ago I started taking high doses if vit C and after 2 weeks I saw its positive impact on me. On a day when vertigo would hit me I feel nauseated and " funny" in my head. This is how I am feeling today. I do not feel dizzy at all just it feels as if I was a little bit floating. I can continue with my everyday duties and I don't have to lie down. I still hope I will get to the point where I would say I feel no symptoms at all, perhaps more time is needed. On the other hand if I had to continue like this through my life I would say it is very manageable and acceptable
( comparing to what it was like even a month ago)

Hope you will manage to solve your puzzle.
Marta

 

Thanks for your honest feedback, John.

 

Thanks, Vicki. I had quite a vertigo spin today.....very hard and fast. I guess it could due to the beginning of allergy season. I am on cromolyn for allergies....my ENT wanted to see if this would help as most OTC drugs are so-so. I may increase the cromolyn dosage. I have tried shots but had an anaphylaxic reaction. As you are, Vicki, I am very sensitive to all prescriptions, supplements. I have been tested for food allergies but have none except for a slight gluten intolerance. I rarely eat gluten these days.
I hope your investigational allergy treatment works. It sounds very promising!! What is it called?
Thanks again for your support. I am feeling pretty down right now

 

Thanks, Marta. What High Vitamin C regimen are you following? I appreciate your help.....I should look into it. I certainly have nothing to lose.

 

I read all recounts and articles on "database" about vit C. I had to start from 32 my a day (bowel tolerance) after 3 weeks or so the tolerance dropped to 17 g a day so my maintenance dose is about 15 g a day. I am still not vertigo free however the attacks are less and less intense. If any questions please do not hesitate to ask. I am looking for someone here who took/has been taking high doses of vit C as I have some questions myself. I even inboxed Ray Solari, but unfortunately no response yet.

 

I'll share my experience with OLE (spoiler alert: it was not a good experience).

A few years ago I went into remission of my MM and had been doing really well with a modified version of the JOH regimen. I was back to normal with the exception of the permanent hearing loss I had already experienced years prior in my left ear. I decided to get a little greedy and added OLE to my regimen when I first heard about its anti-herpetic/anti-inflammatory properties. Within less than a week of taking the OLE I had a major MM flare-up. The OLE was the only thing I changed about my usual routine and diet. I stopped taking it immediately, and my symptoms went away within a day or two. I have not taken it since, and have not had a flare-up since (going on two years now). I had read somewhere that OLE "may" interfere with lysine, though I won't pretend to swear by that. My two cents is if you try the OLE and develop symptoms, stop immediately.

 

actually I recall that discussion and found this thread in the archives, it appear OLE cancels out lysine's suppression of HSV

http://www.menieres.org/forum/index.php/topic,37166.msg765325.html#msg765325

Muff the formula I take for food allergies is called FAHF-2, that's the name they use in the studies on pubmed, in her private practice its called mei huang tea plus I use specific herbal creams, she devloped and get acupuncture, its all part of her protocol for me.

 

John, unless something changed this was your post about OLE and Lysine

http://www.menieres.org/forum/index.php/topic,37166.msg765329.html#msg765329

Well, I totally forgot that posting that claimed lysine's ability to nail herpes viruses is suppressed by OLE. The quote from that article, in regard to a major molecular component of OLE, is this:

"Virucidal activity was diminished by incubation with amino acids lysine, glycine, cysteine and histidine, and to a lesser extent with phenylalanine, tryptophan, serine and threonine. Because the elenolic acid could be inactivated by free amino acids circulating in the bloodstream, research was apparently discontinued."

I would presume (but I don't specifically recall) that this was the reason I dropped any pursuit of OLE in my Meniere's regimen.

The fact that lysine circulating freely in the blood is confounded by OLE rather clearly indicates that it would make no difference when either the lysine or the OLE were consumed. Once in the blood stream, they'd cancel each other out.

So, I retract my suggestions that OLE and lysine together would be helpful.

Since we know that lysine does suppress herpes virus replication, it remains the over the counter antiherpetic of choice.

OLE should not be used with lysine to combat Meniere's.

Thanks for posting the clinical evidence.

--John of Ohio