Hello, As a part of my journey in attempting to achieve complete removal or "cure" of Meniere's disease, I have created the document that describes hypothesis, most presumable causes, and following health practices to go beyond remission - hopefully a full recovery. In summary, my approach is comprised of behavioral adjustment, occlusal adjustment, cervical adjustment, measures against virus, and ample blood flow. The contents are intended to cover most of the Meniere's patients, therefore you may be already aware of some of them, and others may be new, unique approach for you. Behavioral approach essentially comes from investigating causes and therapies on TMJD and related dental issues, and cervical or spinal diseases. The document also incorporates exercise regimen that has been successful in Japan last ten years. I knew success in John of Ohio regimen and chiropractic after my Meniere's symptoms are gone. They all make perfect sense to me. Paying courtesy to predecessors, I have also incorporated them in the portfolio after confirming these effectiveness by myself. I hope this helps for your relief. Any feedback, please let me know. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4smSaYBVJ9gaXN6aVJiRHRFUXM/view?usp=sharing
I appreciate any effort to educate people, but to say that one is the direct cause and another is secondary is completely arbitrary and ignoring the science. It also doesn't make any logical sense given that they are orthogonal to each other. It is likely that there are many direct causes of the symptoms.
scott tom, Firstly congratulations on your relief with Valtrex. This anti-herpetic application was originally discovered by Dr. Shichinohe back in early 90's. For those who are affected with herpes, simply applying lysine and acyclovir will achieve a relief or remission. This can be maintained as long as continuing dose unless the root cause condition is not so severe. It is "remission" because quitting lysine and acyclovir will eventually bring back Meniere's symptoms sooner or later because the root cause is kept untouched. Herpes is activated when immune system is locally less functioning, most likely caused by decreased blood flow. Decreased blood flow comes from cervical misalignment in my theory. Cervical misalignment likely comes from misaligned TM/teeth, bruxism and strong bite - these mechanical powers. Applying too much power on skewed tooth/TM will skew cervical spine as well. We have many chiropracters and dentists that articulate relief to Meniere's and these symptoms. Herpes is a Great Influencer in MD. If you are fine with simply continuing dose forever to maintain remission, that's fine with me as well. My document includes lysine and acyclovir as well. And we have many other MD patients who have not been affected with herpes, including myself that confirmed that I am HSV negative. The document addresses many other ways for relief and wellness in an attempt to completely remove Meniere's. Hope that helps.
Hello Hiro, Thanks for this document. I did not notice it in the other thread. I am trying to improve posture. By the way, are you aware of this doctor's approach? Dr.Fumiyuki Gotoh(五島史行) at Tokyo Iryo Center(東京医療センター), specialist about dizziness. http://www.ntmc.go.jp/p_sect/contents/183.html
Hello Bill, nice to find you again. I checked this and he is indeed specialist about dizziness. Looks like he accepts patients for hospitalization for 4 days, and conducts vertigo / cerebellar trainings. It might be best suited for vestibular disorders or other types of continuous dizziness. If your dizziness occurs at change in head position and lasts for only a few minutes, this one in particular may be BPPV, which can be cured through excercises written in my document. If you have experienced a severe vertigo attack for hours with hearing loss, I think you are on the right forum- menieres.org.
A viral cause was postulated by Lempert 65 years ago. http://www.whirledfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/0212_Viral-Theory-For-Menieres-Disease.pdf Lempert J, Wolff D, Rambo JHT, Wever EG, Lawrence M. (1952) New theory for the correlation of the pathology and the symptomatology of Meniere’s disease; a research study of the vestibular endolymphatic labyrinth. Anna ORL.61,717–746
Thank you for this great article, I am currently undertaking many of these recommendations, including, supplements, and chiropractic focusing on my neck and jaw area. I am curious about your mention of the shingles vaccine? are you recommending getting it? or staying away from it? I have not tried any anti viral s as yet. Judy
Firstly a big thank you Hiro for an interesting and thought provoking article. It is the most enlightened and plausible explanation that I have read for years. It reminds me that when I first needed to consult these boards some years ago they were filled with the JOH v NUCCA (heated) debate. Each warring party convinced that the cause of MM was self-evident! Thanks also to Scott for the Gibson paper. The section at the bottom of p3 under the sub-heading ‘The need for research into a viral cause’ remains eminently desirable. The difference between postulation and EBM is clearly a very large (and important) one. Gibson is in agreement with Hiro that Meniere’s is multifactorial. This is logically the reason that there is no “one size fits all” diagnosis or treatment.
Thanks for sharing your finding. So suggested viral cause by Dr. Lempert must have been long forgotten, even after the invention of acyclovir. I am grateful to Dr. Shichinohe and Dr. Gacek for their successful clinical application to MD.
JHelen, thanks for your message. I would say staying away from shingles vaccine as it's still a live virus. I know a couple of MD patients who took shingles vaccine and experienced vertigo attacks after that. If someone invents inactivated herpes vaccine in the future, I might consider taking it.
yellow, thanks for sharing your insight and historical debate. Very interesting and they all make sense to me. I hope that my document can work as a good mediator for reconciliation ;D
Added McKenzie exercise as another great reference. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQes2ijwcKY McKenzie exercise has been clinically proven for whiplash injuries. I found that it is a great fit for those with posture issues and cervical issues of MD patients as well. It may work best with those who have posterior (behind) and Inferior (below) subluxation which is 90% of MD patients disposition at Burcon's study. You can go to the video and see how others say. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4smSaYBVJ9gaXN6aVJiRHRFUXM/view?usp=sharing
I have found that the neck exercise is really a key to improve cervical condition. In search for a full recovery from Meniere's disease, I have intentionally removed regimens known to be effective, one by one so that I can find a trigger to pull MM back. I have gradually removed daily walking, JOH, neck stretch and so forth. The trigger - tinnitus and hearing loss - occurred when neck stretch has been removed for weeks and I slept in different, not-so-good posture with misfit pillow. The symptom went away in a few days when I resume neck exercises and good sleeping posture. The stretch exercise that we can leverage is used as home therapy for cervical disc disease and cervical spondylosis. http://www.webmd.com/pain-management/managing-neck-pain-home#2 I have updated the document to include these exercises, along with rearranging health practices for easy reading. Any questions, or if you have any similar experience, I would like to know your insight.
I'm going to try these exercises and see if I get any results. I assume they should only be done once a day as the article doesn't mention otherwise.
Action is the proper fruit of knowledge. Thanks for your update. Once per day is probably fine, although the best amount of exercise varies depending on individuals and conditions. If we get muscle pain or increased clicking sounds from the bones, it could be a sign of slowing down. If these exercises has been so piece of cake, maybe we can consider doing a little frequently. The document below is updated to incorporate a series of exercises: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4smSaYBVJ9gaXN6aVJiRHRFUXM/view?usp=sharing
I have added a dental metal such as mercury amalgam dental filling as one of the causes. https://www.dentalwellness4u.com/mercurydetox/menieres.html https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19085401 I have also added a bacterial infection as a secondary cause and a potential blind spot that influences MM to progress. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4smSaYBVJ9gaXN6aVJiRHRFUXM/view?usp=sharing
I have added recent findings to the document: - flow chart to branch herpes as a cause. Approximately two thirds need measures against herpes while one third need other treatments. - perilymph fistula - endolymphatic duct blockage (EDB) - bacteria (as secondary cause) - allergy, a little more description https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4smSaYBVJ9gaXN6aVJiRHRFUXM/view?usp=sharing