What are you listening to?

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  1. Pupper

    Pupper Well-Known Member

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    To all the nurses of the world. For without you, from ancient to modern times, our physical trials would have been far less bearable.

    Looking for a heart-to-heart
    Whenever you're ready

    We want you to know
    If ever you should look in the mirror
    And wonder who it is that you are
    And wonder what it is that you came for

    Well, I know the answer
    You're beautiful (even in your scrubs - pupper)
    You came from heaven
    You came down to this place
    To fill out the dark corners
    With your everlasting light
    And that's why

    I love you
    We love you


    Glass Candy- Warm in the Winter

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akjt-RuNc6U
     
  2. This makes me sad


    Pupper, we had VERY different hospital experiences! I had Nurse Ratched LOL. Just like any other profession. Some are great, some need a dose of their own medicine hehehe
     
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    I understand. I too have had many careless, even mean nurses. But I've always had a spiritual soft spot for them and their chosen path...to give care. There are few professions of such high calling.

    I think it's intrinsic to their womanhood. I'm not a feminist in the modern sense. But one must give it up to females on this front. If there's one thing that separates men from women, in the sense that no amount of social engineering can change, it's that you simply can't make men care. About others. Not like women do. Not nearly.

    Whenever I've been around a bunch of guys and the subject turns to what evil bitches women are, I think, and will sometimes say, "would you work in a children's burn ward? Would you adopt a fucked up baby?" No they would not.
     
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    Some of the best nurses I’ve known have been men. Sadly, one was heartlessly fired, by a female supervisor, because he was twice late to work due to dropping his kids off at school. Another male nurse I knew moved, but continued to make the 2 hour commute, on occasion, to visit former patients. I don’t know any nurses that have done such things, besides my mom, but she was abnormal in that respect. She also did it at the expense of her family.
    You mentioned that your friends wouldn’t work in a burn unit, or adopt a certain kind of child? (By the way, what’s gotten into you, my friend, you don’t use language like that on the forum?! Cease and desist, please!) Beware the company you keep. These are often the kinds of, “friends,” that ditch you when you’re really sick.
     
  5. A Space Boy Dream~Belle & Sebastian

    Walking On the Moon~The Police

    Listening and thinking of who I lost. ❤️
     
  6. Melc

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    Time in a Bottle. Jim Croce

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dO1rMeYnOmM


    It’s a melancholy day today.

    Hugs, Autumn.
     
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    Apologies to Nathan for the hijack.

    Pupper you make some interesting points about empathy and gender. I think most women are hard wired to be the caregivers. There’s a reason why we are the ones to give birth. Men are hard wired to be the tough hunter and gatherers

    Having said that it’s always a good idea not to generalize. My “mother” was the prototype for Nurse Ratchet. Seriously. She was an RN without an ounce of empathy. I had an accident with my bike on a gravel road when I was a kid. I ripped every toenail off my right foot. Bike was wrecked so I walked 2 miles home pushing the useless bike. When I got home she yelled at me because I got blood on her spotless floor. I fixed my self up. I was 11.

    Like you, Autumn some of the best nurses I had were male. I’ve had some pretty awesome female ones, too. I wonder what makes the narcissist choose a profession like nursing?
     
  8. Pupper

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    AutumnMel,

    Almost all communication is necessarily generalization. It's not like the speaker doesn't realize there are many exceptions to a general concept.
     
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    Agreed, Pupper, but there seems to be a listener or two who doesn’t get it.
     
  10. What are you talking about, Pupper?! In general, I never generalize

    With that said...

    Does anyone else love Moonlight Sonata~Beethoven(not the real name of song, I know)? I’ve loved this, and loved playing it on piano, since I was a child. It’s so haunting, but also phrenetic, the best of both worlds. I could listen to it on a loop forever and I’d never get sick of it.
     
  11. Nathan

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    I like Ewoks in addition to. Ewoks are kindchenschema encapsulated… in wonderful suits of fur.

    I do. I do.

    Does anyone else love Moonlight Sonata, especially when stitched to Van Gogh's Starry Night on black water?
     
  12. Nathan

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    It is common for the narcissist to covet control & validation, hence subsequently to seek the dependant & the venerable.

    By default patients are dependant on their caregiver, in this instance a nurse. The role of caregiver supplies the narcissist with a) a position of control, & b) the constant praise & validation their ego requires to sustain a heightened sense of self.

    Degrees of praise, validation, & control the narcissist may otherwise fail or struggle to receive within a relationship (&/or an occupation) with a healthy, independent other.

    Very similar dynamics occur within the narcissist, co-dependant relationship.

    Within these contexts, however, caregiving toward the patient is incidental, while control, praise, & validation are fundamental.

    Ironically caregiving is indeed a motivational driver, though only by the narcissist toward his or her own shrunken sense of self, for which they have developed a defence mechanism—an exaggerated perception of self-importance—to protect. This defence mechanism requires a constant supply of fuel to sustain. A interminable chain of dependant & venerable people—in this case patients, perceived by the narcissist as assets—become the fuel.

    That said, an individual need not be a narcissist to either be, or enjoy being a nurse, of course.
     
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    ~ Jeff Buckley - Grace ~
     
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    Funny, 'venerable' works too, kinda. I know some narcissists that hate to be, and refuse to be, associated with anyone or anything that isn't accorded high rank status.

    Good post. It's a fascinating subject. I like to read about it, but always cut short my readings because the topic hits too close to home and it gets depressing.

    I do like to make clear that there are the self-absorbed (many people, almost common, in the U.S especially), and then there are the true narcissists (not as many as is thought). It's easy to conflate the two. There are specific criteria for NPD, that the merely self-absorbed don't always meet. And the differences are truly consequential.

    Though in everyday life both are a pain the butt. So...avoidance is the bottom line I guess.
     
  16. That's actually my iphone screensaver. This just made my week. The end.
     
  17. Melc

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    Oh, yes. My 6 year old grandson loves his print of starry night that hangs in his bedroom. He has seen the video several times. It’s a kick watching it with him.
     
  18. Just when I think I MIGHT be teetering on the edge of cool, my hopes are dashed. Again. How have I never seen this video???
     
  19. Pupper

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    i'd run circles around beethoven
     
  20. Nathan

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