Lysine

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  1. JanieJiffy

    JanieJiffy Member

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    There is an excellent article on the use of lysine to stop viral replication here:

    Lysine Therapy Interrupts Replication of Virus

    I get the article through the Mercola Censored Library ($5 a month at josephmercola.com).

    The article says when on lysine, you should stop taking zinc and calcium, and you should restrict arginine-rich foods such as nuts and seeds, chocolate, eggs, and seed flours.

    There is very interesting research evidence showing how Covid-19 patients (and patients with viruses from the herpes family) were helped by taking lysine.

    They say you should not take lysine within 2 hours of eating for it to be effective.

    Well worth the read! I have found a great deal of good info at mercola.com. Dr. Mercola thinks outside the box and distrusts the drug and medical field for its ideological capture. So do I. Witness, for example, how pitifully little ENT's know about MD or dietary interventions. Everything is (prescription) drugs, drugs, drugs.
     
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  2. Lilja

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    Without my "little ENT doctor" I would not be where I am now.
    So I'm feeling offended, along with him.
    He did everything possible for me, incl. prescribing Lymph Drainage and special physiotherapy.
    So please don't over generalize your own opinions and sow mistrust.
    That's not fair.
    It might be unhealthy and very dangerous taking whatever without a doctor.
    (e.g. no calcium intake would lead me directly to broken bones.)
    I am afraid there are quite a lot of people believing in alternative medicine speaking up against big pharma but they don't have a problem with affiliate links to a very big sale platform...
     
  3. Lilja

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    Sorry, a word missing Without my "little knowing ENT doctor"
     
  4. JanieJiffy

    JanieJiffy Member

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    I think a big problem curtailing open discussion is people "feeling offended." The solution: don't take my opinion personally. If your experience is different, just put it out there, and the discussion goes on. Hurt feelings mustn't stop the action.

    I would also like to add that I did not say "no calcium intake,": I said calcium supplementation is not recommended while on Lysine.

    I have benefited greatly from studying alternative medical sources, especially during the COVID lockdown when alternative views about both the wisdom of lockdowns and of vaccine mandates were labeled "misinformation" and shut down and de-platformed. That was scary...not the alternative medical advice which I was free to accept or reject. The medical profession is caught up in a lot of groupthink and it resists change. Thank goodness for Dr. Terry Wahls and her "thinking outside the box" Wahls Protocol of radical dietary change, which has helped many people, including myself.
     
  5. EAOfficial

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    But doesn't zinc help with the immune system? Which would be necessary to fight off viruses
     
  6. JanieJiffy

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    One study by Bio-Virus Research said to avoid zinc and calcium supplementation while taking Lysine. Everything else I see on the internet says just to avoid calcium supplementation while taking Lysine because Lysine increases absorption of calcium. So it sounds like "the jury is still out" on the zinc supplementation.
     
  7. John of Ohio

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    Yes, zinc, in adequate concentrations, when inside the cell (in the cytosol) binds to and distorts and chemically disables most viruses.

    But zinc does not naturally or easily diffuse into cells; it tends to stay in body fluids outside of cells. But the supplement quercetin, a chemical in onions, happens to be a "zinc ionophore," a chemical that transports zinc into cells. That's why quercetin has been shown to be an effective prevention or therapy for COVID-19 infections. It brings zinc into the cytosol where it binds to COVID viruses and essentially destroys them.

    Now, whether quercetin can successfully treat Meniere's is unknown to me; have seen no data on this. You might need not only quercetin, but supplementary zinc, greater than 15mgs or so each day.

    I recently discovered a study that showed that green tea extract, which contains the active ingredient "EGCG," also disables herpes and other viruses; without zinc. Not long ago I posted a message on this. Green tea extract would be worth trying. Not very expensive; has lots of known, good health effects. I take a capsule of both green tea extract and quercetin each day; haven't had the flu, cold, or COVID since doing this several years ago.

    --John of Ohio
     
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  8. JanieJiffy

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    Interesting. I will up my Quercetin intake as I had been taking it only intermittently.

    I am a little wary of Green Tea Extract on a regular basis because it can be hard on the liver....but it's encouraging that you have apparently been taking it for several years without side-effects.
     
  9. John of Ohio

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    And, quercetin that includes bromelain is better absorbed than straight quercetin.

    --John of Ohio
     
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    Hi all, I am already taking 1 gram of valacyclovir daily for herpes. I started the JOH regimen this past week but do I really need to also take L-Lysine? I'm trying to eliminate as many pills as I can since it seems like I take close to a dozen a day. Any input would be appreciated, thanks!
     

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