The John of Ohio Regimen --- Updated

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  1. Robin W

    Robin W New Member

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    John,
    I apologize for all the questions, I am new to the site and did not realize the protocol had changed. I have been taking Vinpocetine for a few months now (since I started the program) and I see that you have removed it as a necessary supplement. My question is; Is there any negative aspects with continuing to take the Vinpocetine? Before the winter weather and rain came to my area, I had noticed that my tinnitus was sometimes better and I actually felt like I could hear more out of my left ear. So I wondered if I could continue the supplement even though it was removed from your protocol without any negative interaction with the other supplements you outline. Appreciate your input...Thank you for your time.
     
  2. John of Ohio

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    Robin,

    You are free to continue with the vinpocetine. I removed it from the latest versions of the regimen because after receiving dozens (>100) of emails from users of the regimen it appeared that vinpocetine was not crucial to the regimen's success. It does seem to help reduce the fulness in the inner ear (at least for some), but it's become clear that primary, must effective substance in the regimen is the lysine, which turns down or turns off herpes virus replication and the inflammation the viruses cause --- which then cause the major symptoms of Meniere's disease.

    If you are experiencing no side effects from the vinpocetine, feel free to continue with it.

    --John of Ohio
     
  3. Robin W

    Robin W New Member

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    Thank you!!!
     
  4. DianeMD

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    I, also, have had much improvement from the Lysine regime for the past 6 months...always still a little off balance, but no more drop down, spinning, puking episodes, so BIG improvement. My question is this...you say your Meniere's symptoms are now resolved even though you discontinued taking the Lysine...as I know the herpes virus NEVER disappears, just goes dormant, how do you explain your symptoms not returning? In other words, I'm asking if the rest of us can ALSO discontinue the Lysine at some point, or is it just hit or miss & experimentation?
     
  5. John of Ohio

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    After the herpes virus infection is suppressed by the lysine (which can take weeks or months), it is very possible that a fully functioning immune system is able to suppress new herpes infections.

    A major factor here is vitamin D-3. The immune system requires ample vitamin D-3 to be fully functional. That's why colds and flues are most prominent in winter; when people can't expose their skin sufficiently to the sun's rays. Vitamin D is photosynthesized in the skin by sufficient UVB light, from the sun. In winter, in northern latitudes the sun never rises high enough in the sky to allow ample UVB rays to reach the surface (or skin). The sun has to be higher than 40 degrees in the sky to provide sufficient energy to photosynthesize vitamin D in the skin.

    So, the stores of vitamin D, made in summer sun, are depleted from human body fat in fall and winter. The immune system is thereby compromised, and viral diseases proliferate.

    The conventional explanation for fall and winter viral diseases is wrong. It's claimed that in those cool seasons humans cluster around together inside in rooms and thereby share germs. Not so, today. In summer, people cluster inside in air-conditioned spaces and share germs.

    I take more than 5000IU of vitamin D each day, along with 400 mg of magnesium in magnesium malate, and a capsule of vitamin K-2. Magnesium and K-2 are vitamin D efficacy cofactors. They help the vitamin D support the immune system.

    Since taking my vitamin D, over ten years ago, I've never had a cold or flu. My immune system is fully supported by the two vitamins and the magnesium. The remnant herpes viruses in my body are unable to replicate and cause inflammation. My immune system works year-round, in all seasons.

    I also no longer get seasonal affective disorder, SAD, where in winter I used to get tired and depressed. Sufficient vitamin D fixes that, too.

    --John of Ohio
     
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  6. DianeMD

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    I understand. I live in Arizona, but avoid the sun d/t hx. of various skin cancers, so I DO supplement with Vitamin D (1,000 IU), which is included in my multi vitamin. I have recently started taking a K2D3 supplement for bone health, which includes Vit D3 (5,000 IU), but am a little concerned about Vit D toxicity at this point, as it seems like maybe I am taking too much? I haven't had my blood level checked, but maybe this is something you recommend doing on an annual basis?
     
  7. John of Ohio

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    Vitamin D is not "toxic" unless the person has a blood level of >100,000ng/ml. That level is virtually impossible to attain by taking 5000IU of vitamin D each day.

    You are welcome to have a blood test for vitamin D concentrations. The labs doing these tests always note the 100,000ng/ml level. But you may test at over 50,000ng/ml, whereupon, if you have a physician who is not up to date on known vitamin D biology in humans may turn around and say, "Hey, cut back on your vitamin D. You are taking too much." But, not so. Too much is a blood level >100,000ng/ml.

    Note. If you go out in the summer sun in a bathing suit for several hours your sun-exposed skin will make 100,000ng/ml of vitamin D. Those excesses are simply discarded by the body.

    Millions take vitamin D each day. Ever heard of a single case of toxicity from it? Extremely rare; and when discovered there is full and prompt recovery when the dosage is dropped back to, say, 5000 IU.

    Lots of info here, from THE vitamin D expert, Dr. Holick:
    Vitamin D | Dr. Michael F. Holick

    --John of Ohio
     
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  8. Caren Singapore

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    Hello there I am new but not that new to this forum. Started having MD symptoms since 2014, followed JOH regime (previous version) alongside with acyclovir and it went on remission (along with meds for my autoimmune, Plaquenil). Since this year, I have had 7 vertigo attacks so I am at my wits end. Can you pls share the new regime for MD management? Thank you so much.
    P.S last night out of desperation, I took 800mg of acyclovir and the tingling sensation along my ear cartilage and neck seem to come down a notch as well as the hissing sound and the plugged feeling. And also this symptom actually will migrate to my good ear so I do agree HSV-1 is prob the culprit (I have been tested positive for it and have a recent cold sore eruption on my nose due to a flu)
     
  9. Rene

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    Good Morning
    I’m from Germany. I started with acyclovir 400 mg 3 times per day in January and at the beginning it seemed to help really fast. But between, I had several times with Meniere attacks again making me doubt that it works . Also brain fog, dizziness. But finally after nearly 5 months the fullness in the ear is gone, the attacks seem to be gone and tinnitus is down a lot. I still take 2 times 400mg of aciclovir to avoid a kickback.
    But if you not sure about its Meniere or not, I would recommend you to search for Dr. David Clark in YouTube. Maybe you know him already?
    I’m in contact with him and for me it’s helpful.
    If you need more information, contact me.
    Rene
     
  10. Rene

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    Good Morning
    I’m from Germany. I started with acyclovir 400 mg 3 times per day in January and at the beginning it seemed to help really fast. But between, I had several times with Meniere attacks again making me doubt that it works . Also brain fog, dizziness. But finally after nearly 5 months the fullness in the ear is gone, the attacks seem to be gone and tinnitus is down a lot. I still take 2 times 400mg of aciclovir to avoid a kickback.
    But if you not sure about its Meniere or not, I would recommend you to search for Dr. David Clark in YouTube. Maybe you know him already?
    I’m in contact with him and for me it’s helpful.
    If you need more information, contact me.
    Rene
     
  11. David H

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    JOH,
    What is the current recommended regimen. I have been taking all of the supplements from the 2014 protocol and have been symptom free for over 4 years. Thank you. I would like to start cutting back on some of the supplements if they are not necessary
     
  12. John of Ohio

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    If you have remained symptom free for 4 years you have the disease well under control. Going forward try taking just the lysine. Start, for a time, at just 1000mg; then, a daily single 500mg dose should work.

    --John of Ohio
     
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  13. susan silberman

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    Have your ever heard that the side of the face where the ear is affected can get numb? Besides a fullness in the ear the whole surrounding area feel numb. Sometimes it can go up to the side of the head. Are you familiar with this symptom or is anyone familiar with it? Thank You
     
  14. susan silberman

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    I am trying to adapt to your regimen. I am taking 1000 mg a day of l-lysine for a very long time; probably at least a year along with Citrus Bioflavinoids complex; 1000 mg a day. It has taken me very long to adapt to the 1000 mg of lysine. I am trying now to increase it to 2000 mg. a day.
    My meniere's symptoms are really bad; i.e. my hearing is terrible on the affected ear. I have a bad case of tinnitus, fullness in the ear. Yet the hardest is the extensive facial numbness I feed on the affected side.
    I will keep trying to get to 3000 mg of lysine slowly.
    I thank you for your assistance. You already assisted me in the past with purchasing the right LLysine and bioflavinoids. Thank you.
     
  15. John of Ohio

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    From the many dozens of people who have used my lysine-based regimen and have emailed their experiences to me I have received no reports of the numbness you described. This might be something to confer with a doctor on, to determine the more exact nature and cause of the numbness.

    --John of Ohio
     
  16. mountain_man

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    I had this experience directly after a sudden hearing loss
     
  17. Carlos_Spain

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    Hi, does anyone know if taking lysine can alter the results of a blood test, for example creatinine or something else?

    Thank you in advance
     
  18. John of Ohio

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    I have found no evidence for this.

    --John of Ohio
     
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  19. Khatija

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    Hi John,

    Thank you kindly for providing this
    Is the vertigoheel no longer required in the protocol?

    Thank you
     
  20. John of Ohio

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    Vertigoheel is no longer easily available. It is not essential for the success of the protocol.
    --John of Ohio
     

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