Enjoying Full Remission by Managing Histamine and Its Triggers

Don't give up on taurine. Like everything else it may need to reach a level of homeostasis.
It may also contribute to the salt pool in the inner ear. Here are some links for taurine.
One is an AI. through Brave. AI's are useful, but biased by the developer. Any need for more
information, ask.
Seem if there is some blocking going on. I saw this with groups before. If you don't get
the links. Let me know.
Larry

 

Hi Rubygirl
Thank you for the link. I can now hear a little better again. I don't yet know whether this is a normal fluctuation or has to do with the reduction in histamine. How long did it take for you to hear normally again?

 

Thanks, Ruby Girl, for keeping me in the thread.
I know a bit about Histamine. So here is a mini-course.
To look at serum Histamine and have any Idea what it means.
Different sorces of histamine release have didderent biological half-lives.
Most are measures in minutes. Sometimes the peak of the cuve is a few minutes away
from the stimulus and others maybe drawn out for hours.
Histamine is a messenger chemical. It is used to tell your body there is a problem.
Local imflammation any where in or on your body will produce a Histamine responce.
I.E. Hit your finger with a hammer. Histamine tell your brain it hurts. Place a sterile tooth pick under
your finger nail the brain registers the report as invasion. A virus or bacteria invades your sinus- your nose runs.
In a sense histamine is a good thing. It's release tell the brain, there is a problem and sometimes where.
In the context of an infectious process it is used to direct IgM and IgG to quickly modifiy their structure
to be able target suseceptable invaders. IgE is different in that It's trigger is the enviroonment.
It's design trigger can be fungus ( fungus and humans share much the same DNA.). IgE does and will trigger
Histamine release.
So to limit this diatribe, here is what I suggest. Limit IgE levels. How, try this. There is a fatty acid (docosahexaenoic) DHA, That restricts the expression of IgE. You may have recognized that fatty acid.
Fish oil-krill oil. But don't get to excited. Fish oil come from the neverland of unpure. and Krill oli
has a dichotomy. It contains 2 major fatty acids. Docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) and Eicosapentaedoic acid
EPA. These two fatty acids are complentary. DHA will decrease the effect of IgE while EPA will enhanse it"s effect. An experiment I have not yet performed.
What if we reduced the effect of IgE by using purified DHA.

 

hi! can you also take lysine with your multivitamin? Thanks!

 

Outside of some effects on Herpes, I don't see an advantage to L-lysine.
And in that case I would suggest the fatty acid Lauric acid. Found in cocconut
and palm oil. I have also found that multivitamins are not effect supplements.
Best to target the problem, then take what you need. Taking a handfull of supplements
can inhibit absortion or even change the chemical characteristics. I.E.: taking fatty acids with
a fiber meal. Fatty acids stick to fiber, taking calcium, calcium binds to everthing. Alway take with vitamin C.
Even Tumeric. changes from yellow to red in your gut.
Lauric Acid Effects
is a medium-chain saturated fatty acid found in coconut oil and other plant-based oils, and it has various effects on the body. It is known for its antibacterial, antiviral, and antifungal properties, which can help combat pathogens such as bacteria, viruses, and fungi. When converted to monolaurin, it acts as a bacteria-killer and has been shown to be effective against a wide range of harmful pathogens.

In terms of health benefits, lauric acid has been associated with improving cardiovascular health by increasing high-density lipoprotein (HDL) levels, which are considered good cholesterol. It may also promote ketosis, which is beneficial for individuals on low-carbohydrate and ketogenic diets. Additionally, lauric acid has shown potential in combating cancer by promoting the destruction of cancer cells and preventing cancer growth, particularly in breast and colon cancer cells.

However, the effects of lauric acid on cardiovascular health are not entirely clear. While it can increase HDL levels, it also raises low-density lipoprotein (LDL) levels, which are considered bad cholesterol. This can lead to an increase in total cholesterol levels, although the overall effect on the total cholesterol to HDL ratio may be favorable. A 2016 review of coconut oil, which is nearly half lauric acid, found inconclusive results regarding its effects on cardiovascular disease incidence.

Lauric acid also has antimicrobial properties that can help in the treatment of acne by reducing the growth of Propionibacterium bacteria, which is a common cause of acne. It has been shown to be more effective than benzoyl peroxide, a common over-the-counter acne treatment, in reducing bacterial growth on the skin.

In addition to its antimicrobial effects, lauric acid has been studied for its potential in reducing inflammation and oxidative stress. It has been found to have anti-inflammatory properties and can help in reducing the risk of neuroinflammation and neuronal damage in conditions such as Alzheimer's disease. However, it can also have side effects, including effects on dyslipidemia and cardiovascular diseases, as it can interact with erythrocytes and affect cellular membranes.

Overall, while lauric acid has several potential health benefits, its effects can vary, and more research is needed to fully understand its impact on human health.

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Oh, okay! Thanks. I liked the multivitamin because I read it in your list of recommendations on the website.

 

Not my web site. It's down for update. I am the guy that has a research lab in his house.
Though soon my grant from Tennessee may chang that.
Larry

 

Hi All, I'm new to this forum, and I find this thread particularly interesting.
I started experiencing symptoms in February, and after seeing several doctors they now agree that I am a suspect Meniere patient. Suspect because, as it turns out, there is now certain way to define this condition.
Anyway, now I have two path in front of me. An old school doctors has put me on glycerol (50% diluted), saying that this acts as osmotic recalling the fluids in excess, including the ones from the ears.
Second stream is a new school doctor, who says that glycerol is from the 70s and now the therapy is based on a food called SPC flakes, which needs to be taken 1gm/kg/day. After three months it should start giving benefits. Needless to say, they are extremely expensive (25€/450gm/ but of course should they work I don't care).

I have seen that both ideas are known in these forums even though the threads I found were not much populated, so difficult to understand the effectiveness.

In the meanwhile, reading around, I found an interesting detailed websites talking about histamine effects on Meniere's patients. It's in Italian but maybe you can have it translated, I think it.goes quit technical into this matter.

Vertigine ed Istamina

I haven't tried yet this kind of dietary, but it's on list and I found this thread very interesting indeed, as it points in the same direction.

After months of confusion my approach is now to try the different approaches one by one, to avoid mixing the effects.

Question for ruby girl: have you continued you saltless diet or not?

 

Thanks for your reply. Sorry for the stupid question, is there any connection between this treatment with low histamine and the usage of betahistine? I understand betahistine acts in various ways, one of these is blocking one histamine receptor.

 

Thanks for sharing this. Yes histamine is a factor in autoimmune disease. It is a signaling
agent. But not the cause of the disease. In order to control any of the diseases one must block the causitive agent or stop the inflammatory process. In the case of meniere's use of fatty acids is bothe safe and effect. Also the use of natural blocking agent to IgE ( I am now studing the effect of purified DHA orally as step one. Step 2 will be transdermally ). Antihistamines don't fix the cause. I'll let you know how I make out. While I am at it, I havea question. Is the a time, by the clock that you are without symptoms a a time you sense them starting.
I am trying to follow cortisol and acth levels with respect to allergen response.
Larry

 

I recently had an medical experience which might shed some light on leaky gut disease.
I cured a kitten of feline Parvo virus. In Parvo the inner most layer of intestine sluffs off. You can't get anymore leaky. I will try to make this short. When the inner portion of the intestine is either missing or none functional there is a reason. Without a functional intestine absorbtion relies on tisse transport. In many cases I.E. celiac disease and probably leaky gut the micrville lilli lay down. Like trees after a hurricane. The is a biochemical found inwheat germ brown rice and sorghum that triggers the micro villi to stand up. To that end a help for leaky gut could be the following. Flaxseed oil (linolaic acid. Antiviral and anti-inflammatory) Chicken soup ( don't laugh.
Must be home made broth. Resoson for home made. Don't know what is in store bought. Also is probably cooked
longer. The cooking breaks down proteins to small peptide and amino acids which a easily absorbed without microvilli. I f the chicken is boiled with the skin on the broth will be hight in Zinc. In the case of the kitten the to the broth was added 20% sorghum syrup. This contains not on only Spermidine to help the microvilli but almany small molecules including glucose an sucrose to support immune response. Nessary for the kitten.
hope this helps.
Larry

 

Hi Rubygirl, allow me to ask few more questions.

I tried eliminating histamine from my diet. It's extremely difficult but for the first time in 3 months I skipped my weekly vertigo attack. I have a diary of my simpthoms since June, and I notice that every 5-7 days I have a vertigo attack that forces me to bed, from 2 to 12 hours. Yesterday,after 14 good days, started feeling bad, pressure on my ears, let's see if it will get worse.
It could be a coincidence of course but one must experiments a bit with MD.

I am then trying to think what I have been eating and I am wondering how long I should go back.

The thing is, in my understanding there is an accumulation of histamine in the body. So maybe I had a little at lunch (I had to cous cous with vegetables at the canteen yesterday because I had not prepared my lunch), a little more in the evening and the suddenly I have the symptoms .
How long does it take for food histamine for being processed?

Then I wanted to ask about yiest. Have you removed it completely? I haven't removed bread from my diet for example, maybe that a mistake.

Finally I was reading back your posts and I found this about DAO:

"and it's only half the battle because then there is histamine that is released INSIDE your body that the DAO doesn't access. That's where the other supplements come in to bypass or assist the biochemical processes"

Which other supplements are you using to eliminate histamine?

Thanks for your help.