Cannibis Treatment for Meniere's

Another thought... If it is burnt looking, your vaporizer is set to high, or you inhaled too slowly. If it is still green, then your vaporizer is set to low or you inhaled to fast. The slower you inhale, the more time the air has in contact with the heating element, the hotter it gets. The faster you inhale, the less time the air has in contact with the element and it won't get as hot. So there are 2 variables you have to exert a little control over to get the best experience. The temperature of the vaporizer and the speed you inhale. It's a fairly intuitive process though that you will quickly grasp once you start. It's not too complicated.

 

Yes, I was asking all but especially you.

I know what a vaporizer is but I've never seen one.

I can say that if I had posted what I wrote last night, I'm not sure what that post would have looked like today.
On and off through the years, I have smoked.
Most of those times it helped in small amounts.
The last time I smoked, I went into a Panic attack/Menieres attack within 10 minutes.
I swear I thought I was dying.
It lasted 2 hours and I had to continually practice my breathing not to hyperventilate.

This is a fascinating subject as medical marijuana is now available in many states.
Then, I know some with Menieres that get high all day and it helps them immensely.

I'd like to experiment but now I'm deathly afraid of repeating the last episode.

I hope more people respond with this topic. This is a topic that hears consideration if for no other reason than to share experiences, opinions, and the legal aspects.

As you must have read, Carribean posted article after article on this topic.
I'm sure that today there's more research than there was then.

I wish he were here. I miss him. GREAT guy.

 

I can't be high during the day, during the work week. I've got to drive and function at work. Lately, those hours have been a little bit challenging. Though I've been using a strain during the day called harlesin. It's a high CBD strain that doesn't result in intoxication, or, the "high" is only a fraction of what the typical high is. You might try a strain like that. I end up feeling happier and less anxious than I do normally, and my balance problems don't bother me as much. I've smoked several hits worth at once and I don't ever feel even remotely nauseated from that stuff. Not intoxicated either.

Another thing you might try, if you decide you want to try it again, is to have both a high THC strain AND a high CBD strain on hand. CBD counteracts the THC. That's why a high CBD strain won't make you feel intoxicated even though there is THC present, cause the CBD counteracts THC's psychoactive affects. I haven't tried this yet, but I've heard that if you get too much THC cannabis and you are starting to feel yucky, doing some high CBD cannabis will bring you down, so that you don't have to suffer for hours. Eating food will do the same thing, though that can be problematic if you are feeling nauseated.

Goodness, that would be pretty scary. I can certainly see why you would be hesitant.

You know, I actually have no idea who that is. Did he used to post in the old forum or something?

 

Old forum.

Threads by Carribean. Avatar a cue ball, #8

You'd enjoy his posts. Very informative.

CBD verse HTC...
Do you have a medical card?
Otherwise how would one be able to obtain each individually?
Am I reading you correctly in that you'd need a product with both.
Or that CBD would be a better choice.

(I cannot believe I'm having this conversation.) LOL

 

Actually, I live in Colorado, so it is recreationally available here, which is how it should be everywhere in my book. However, the recreational places near where I live don't carry the kinds of strains I need, so a card was indeed the way I choose to go. The medical dispensaries where I live do carry the high CBD strains.

The issue with the high CBD strains is the CBD to THC ratio. Most fun strains have high THC content and very low CBD content. That makes sense when you consider that they are bread for the most potent high. THC is what gives you that. As the numbers fall toward a 1 to 1 ratio, the high you can get from the cannabis falls. And when it is more CBD than THC, you get even less high. The stuff I'm using now, if I remember correctly, is a 3 to 1 CBD to THC ratio and could actually use just a fuzz more THC. I'm less certain about how effective the really low THC stuff is at controlling this disease directly. It helps me with the anxiety and the nausea, but I would want something a bit more potent for a control medication. The psychoactive parts are a big piece of the puzzle in terms of relieving severe suffering. At least, that is my opinion from having used the two. The high CBD stuff is decent for taking the edge off my anxiety when I can't be intoxicated, but I doubt it would help much when the room is spinning. Though I never actually tried.

 

I don't know. Is there anything more intractable than willful ignorance? Meniere's Disease maybe...

 

“As a Christian, I recognize the innate goodness of everything God made and humanity’s charge to be stewards of the same,” wrote Simpson. “I don’t believe that when God made marijuana he made a mistake that government needs to fix.”


Lol

 

***Stands up and cheers!***

 

Woo-HOO!

 

I know medicinal marijuana helps many people but I have been reading more and more negative effects from it unfortunately. But I guess like all medicines you need to weigh the benefit with the risks

 

Oh come now Vicki. You can't post something like that on a thread like this without giving more details... what negative effects?

 

hmm I took for granted you already knew since you are using it.
Cannabinoids
http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements/marijuana/safety/hrb-20059701
many of the side effects may have side effects we with MM try to avoid, lowers immune system, causes dizziness anxiety and depression.
Side Effects and Warnings

Cannabinoids are likely safe when used for specific conditions at the recommended doses for the recommended amount of time.

Side effects have mostly been linked to THC, the active ingredient in Cannabis sativa. Dizziness is a common side effect. Marijuana may have effects on almost every organ system in the body, including the central nervous, heart, endocrine, and immune systems.

Use cautiously with alcohol. Combining alcohol and CBD may cause significantly low blood alcohol levels compared to alcohol alone, though similar effects may occur.

Marijuana may increase the risk of bleeding. Caution is advised in people with bleeding disorders or those taking drugs that may increase the risk of bleeding. Dosing adjustments may be necessary.

Marijuana may affect blood sugar levels. Caution is advised in people with diabetes or blood sugar problems, and in those taking drugs, herbs, or supplements that affect blood sugar. Blood sugar levels may need to be monitored by a qualified healthcare professional, including a pharmacist, and medication adjustments may be necessary.

Marijuana may cause low blood pressure. Caution is advised in people who have blood pressure disorders or those taking drugs or herbs and supplements that lower blood pressure.

Use cautiously in people who have liver disease or those using agents toxic to the liver.

Use cautiously in people who are taking barbiturates, antipyrine, or central nervous system (CNS) depressants.

Marijuana may interfere with the way the body processes certain agents using the liver's cytochrome P450 enzyme system. As a result, the levels of these agents may be increased in the blood and may cause increased effects or potentially serious adverse reactions. People using any medications should check the package insert and speak with a qualified healthcare professional, including a pharmacist, about possible interactions.

Use cautiously in people who are on estrogen therapy.

Use cautiously in people who have immune disorders or those taking agents that may affect the immune system.

Use cautiously in people who are taking p-glycoprotein-regulated drugs.

Use cautiously in people who have a history of drug abuse or addiction. Marijuana may be addictive.

Use cautiously in people who have or are at risk of eye problems. Marijuana may cause eye problems and dry eyes, and it may increase eye pressure.

Use cautiously when consuming foods or supplements that contain cannabis seeds or oil. These products may contain a high level of THC that may trigger a positive drug screen.

Use cautiously in people who are at risk of seizure or those using antiseizure drugs. Marijuana may cause seizures.

Use cautiously in people who have or are at risk of heart disease. Marijuana may cause abnormal heartbeat, disrupted blood flow to organs (kidney, spleen), heart attack, and heart failure.

Use cautiously in people who have learning disabilities or attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Marijuana may cause problems with attention, learning, memory, organization, planning, problem solving, and other brain functions.

Use cautiously in people at risk of skin problems. Marijuana may cause hives, patches in the mouth, and skin itching.

Use cautiously in people with stomach disorders. Marijuana may cause stomach problems such as a bad taste, burning or swelling tongue, diarrhea, dry mouth, increased appetite, indigestion, mouth ulcers, nausea, pain, and vomiting.

Use cautiously in people who have or are at risk of musculoskeletal disorders. Marijuana may cause bone problems, increased risk of side effects linked to musculoskeletal or connective tissue disorders, falls, muscle problems (pain, twitching, or weakness), numbness, recurrence in multiple sclerosis, reduced coordination, restlessness, and speech disorders.

Drowsiness or sedation may occur. Use caution if driving or operating heavy machinery.

Use cautiously in all otherwise healthy people who are not taking any medications. Marijuana may cause disorientation, dizziness, headaches, fatigue, a feeling of intoxication, lightheadedness, and reduced attention.

Use cautiously in people who have or are at risk of ear problems. Marijuana may cause ear problems.

Avoid if allergic or sensitive to cannabinoids or to plants of the Cannabaceae family. Asthma, hives, pinkeye, and runny or stuffy nose have been reported.

Avoid in women who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or trying to get pregnant. Marijuana may have serious risks and may cause low birthweight or abnormalities in the baby.

Avoid long-term use in people who have or are at risk of lung problems, such as asthma or byssinosis (a disease caused by breathing dust). Marijuana may cause bronchitis, coughing, lung cysts, phlegm, reduced lung density, and wheezing.

Avoid using cannabis products that have been obtained illegally. These products may contain unknown and possibly harmful ingredients, such as the animal tranquilizer PCP.

Avoid inhaling cannabis, due to increased risks of lung cancer, emphysema (chronic lung disease), and spontaneous pneumothorax (collapsed lung).

Avoid injecting cannabis into the veins. Cannabis sativa may be extremely toxic.

Avoid using in children or adolescents. Marijuana may affect brain development in the young.

Avoid using in people who have or are at risk of mental illness. Marijuana may cause anxiety and psychotic-like symptoms. It may also increase the risk of aggression, bipolar disorder, delusions, depression, hallucinations, lack of energy or motivation, and suicidal thoughts.

Avoid using before driving motorized vehicles. Marijuana may increase the risk of collision, and when combined with alcohol, it may affect alertness and driving performance.

Marijuana may also cause blood rush or dizziness when standing, a burning sensation, cannabis arteritis (reduced blood flow to feet and legs), changes in brain structure, changes in chromosomes, changes in erectile function, changes in quality of life, confusion, detachment from surroundings, difficulty concentrating, dysphoria (feeling unhappy or unwell), euphoria (feeling of happiness or well-being), forgetfulness, hoarseness, increased risk of male cancers, liver problems (damage, disorders, or poisoning), panic, paranoid thinking, problems with bowel movements, psychiatric problems, reduced saliva, reduced sperm production, risky behaviors (unprotected sex), sudden stomach upset, sweating, thirst, throat irritation, urinary tract infection, and weight gain.

Pregnancy and Breastfeeding

Avoid using marijuana in women who are pregnant, breastfeeding, or trying to get pregnant. Research strongly suggests that marijuana may have serious risks for the child, including abnormalities, cancer, development problems, increased leukemia risk, low birthweight, and reduced attention skills. Cannabis may affect the mother's judgment and ability to care for the child, and it should not be smoked around infants or children. Cannabis may be passed to babies through breast milk

 

Some of that is certainly valid, but I'm a little surprised at you Vicki. You usually go straight to the horses mouth for your research. This is(most likely) simply the mayo clinic parroting a lot of government studies, which have been done with a political and social agenda for decades. Politics and supposed "morality" have no business in science.

My opinion, much of the stuff that is valid on your list, we've already discussed on this thread. And almost all of that is completely mitigated by moderation in use.

I find the birth weight and pregnancy one particularly interesting. I heard a study that followed a large number of pregnant women to determine what impacts their use had on their children. The result? No impact what so ever. No birth defects, no under weight babies. Nothing.

And, I find it fascinating that people would trust pharmaceuticals over mother nature, or the work of God if you prefer. I don't mean that towards you in particular Vicki. Just in general, people have this blind spot when it comes to putting man made chemicals into their body. Pharmaceuticals kill people every year. I'll use them if I have no other choice, but I would much sooner trust the handi-work of God. Cannabis doesn't kill people. I have a cousin who uses it. He once smoked half an ounce(which would take months to go through at the previously discussed dosages), just to see what would happen to him. What happened? He had a bad trip. Nothing more. No long term consequences at all. That was decades ago and he's totally fine. I'm going to see him next month.

It should be used in moderation, to avoid the down sides of a bad trip. But I have yet to see any convincing evidence or proof that cannabis can actually hurt you. You might have a panic attack and make a bad choice, I've heard of that. But it won't hurt you directly. So use with caution, that's all.

If you are scared of using it but are curious if it can positively impact your disease, the thing to do would be to find someone who already uses it, have them help you get a vaporizer and some leaf, and then have them sit with you when you do it. A "trip buddy". That way, they can make sure you don't do anything stupid. That will then give you the experience you need to be able to continue doing it safely on your own. Just don't be surprised when everything becomes funny and you can't stop smiling. Or at the remarkably whole and healthy feeling you get.

 

a few things,
who is the horse I was too get side effects from?
and why are you bringing in pharmaceutical drugs? what does one thing have to do with another? We are discussing cannabis nothing else. Some of evils of regular meds does not make cannabis any safer or better.

I don't use it because I have no need for it. Assuming I want to use it but I am scared is mighty presumptuous on your part.

Why are you getting so defensive?

 

I said that for the benefit of anyone else who is reading. Not you.

I feel a little defensive, yes. But only because I have a problem with how the governments of the world have wrongly demonized a very beneficial plant. That's all.

Here is a very interesting documentary about cannabis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbhZVARWOAQ

 

I grew up in the 1960's and 70's, there isn't anyone I knew back then that did NOT smoke pot, including myself.
There are some that I know from back then that are still getting high, 45 or so years later.

Mind you, I am referring to people I know personally, not you or people on these forums etc.

they cant hold a job, they sleep all day, never have money except for their weed, I believe their minds have been affected..to put it nicely, ..they are not the sharpest tools in the shed.

I don't know their physical health but their lifestyle is far less than desirable.

Again this is from my personal experience, it is not a statement about you or anyone else on these forums.

 

Here is an interesting list of people...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/18/most-famous-marijuana-users_n_5160073.html

Most of them are celebrities, and so that doesn't mean much in my book. But a couple stood out.

Rush Limbaugh. You may or may not agree with his politics or his style, but I think it would be hard to argue that he is unintelligent.

Bill Gates.

George Soros.

John Kerry.

Clarence Thomas.

Oprah Winfrey.

Barack Obama.

I could go on. Are these people dull and not sharp as tacs? ;-)

I am a software engineer, and generally consider myself to be an intelligent person. I once took an IQ test and scored 155, which is basically genius level, though I don't really consider myself a genius. Sometimes I can be really stupid. lol. The other day, I wrote an 18 table SQL Server database in 2 hours while on some high CBD bud. I felt remarkably clear and collected. And I saw the totality of the database without issue and dove in, writing the whole thing in short order. I'm going to start writing the MVC application around it next week.

I wouldn't be able to do that while high on some high THC bud, that is a certainty. I wouldn't even want to. So that is something to be aware of I suppose. WHILE you are high, yeah, things work a little differently. And at first, before you have any tolerance, you will be far too happy to be much concerned with intellectual pursuits. After you begin to develop a little tolerance, your mind starts working again, only this time, it works differently. MORE efficiently, I'm convinced. It is easily able to think more creatively. When I spoke of my mid-life awakening, that's what I was referring to. All these insights into my life that I have never had before, that while I am sober I am amazed by and grateful for.

If I sound like I'm trying to convince people to use it, I probably am. I'm sorry about that. If you don't want to. Go your way, and be happy in the way that makes the most sense to you. For me, I went from wanting to kill myself to being amazed at the beauty of life. Why? Partly because the vertigo had stopped. But also because I had been given uniquely powerful tools to direct and guide my own life. To see it through new and deeper lenses.

To each his/her own.

Peace.

 

Most of those people you listed have NOT used it ongoing for 30-40-50 years, just about everyone has used it at one time or another.

Please don't give misleading information.
I am talking about people who use it every day for decades, not people who used years ago. We would be hard pressed to find anyone who has tried or used it at one time.
But giving Obama Oprah Soros Kerry examples as people who use pot everyday for years on end is misinformation.

I am not judging you, if it helps your MM that's great, but people should also know the side effects which was the purpose of my first post.

 

edit*
We would be hard pressed to find anyone who hasn't* tried or used it at one time.