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Help with low arginine/sodium diet!

Discussion in 'Your Lovely Kitchen' started by mbgphoto79, Mar 17, 2018.

  1. mbgphoto79

    mbgphoto79 Member

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    So how do those of you following the low arginine/high lysine diet do it? I’ve been trying to stick to it for a couple months but man, it’s tough! Add in the low sodium part and there’s not much in the way of choices. For example, I eat homemade yogurt and applesauce every morning, maybe a hard boiled egg also. The other meals I’m left with some type of bland protein, green beans and potatoes. This is healthy I suppose but dang. I slipped and had some spaghetti the other day and the wheat destroyed me all week. I’m just now coming out of that episode. Hints? Tricks? Help?
     
  2. bewestbrook

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    Hey, new member here, so I'm late answering. You have probably already figured out some stuff. I'm up early each morning and always hungry, so my go-to for breakfast is amaranth flakes with dried or fresh fruit on top and whole milk. I just made this baked rice dish. Got the saffron for $5.00 at an import store called World Market (I think it has different names in different states). And I used dried, sour cherries instead of barberries. It came out really nice! I'm a mediocre cook at best, so this was a treat. Next time, I'll try it as a savory dish. For grains, I eat a lot of corn, rice, and potatoes and lots of leafy greens, etc. I snack on skinny pop, apples and apple sauce, rice rolls, etc. I used to make my own humus, which was pretty easy. But it seems sesame seeds are high in arginine (sigh). I have some amaranth and will cook that up next weekend to see if I can make grain bowl-type stuff. As for sodium, the taste receptor for salt is about the same as for tanginess. Anywhere you can, use lemon or lime for flavoring. I've been very low-sodium for a while now, but only recently started on the lysine/arginine path. I'd love to hear if you've found anything you like.
     
  3. Homer

    Homer New Member

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    I could be wrong on this but I believe it's fine to eat foods high in arginine if it has an even higher lysine count. For example chicken has a high amount of arginine but it has an even higher amount of lysine so that makes chicken more or less safe to eat. It may not be for you but it's just food for thought. It's all about the ratio and not the amount.

    Foods High in Lysine

    This website has a chart to kind of give you an idea of what is and isn't fine.
     
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  4. JennaLu

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    I'm struggling with the low sodium diet too. I'm new to this with recent diagnosis of CH. Frustrating because I can't tell if I'm just having a "good ear day" or if all of this diet schmiet change is helping. Very difficult to eat out anywhere especially in the south where I am. Everything is loaded with salt other salads.
     
  5. bewestbrook

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    Personally, I responded well to a super low-sodium diet, at least as far as tinnitus was concerned. Then the episodes of vertigo/vomiting started and the sodium stuff doesn't seem to help there. It's different for everyone, it seems. But I stick to it because I don't have anything else. I'm following the John of Ohio regimen and that actually has helped a ton with those episodes, especially once I learned I had to also control arginine. I do eat out, but choose carefully and then drink tons of water. We make most of our meals at home; I bake all the bread, too. I ask at restaurants that, for example, burgers and fries not be salted as they're being cooked or just after. And I bring a hamburger bun I made. It's definitely a rabbit hole to fall down. For example, a medium sized egg contains about 65 mg of sodium, 90% of which is the egg white.
     
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  6. bewestbrook

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    Also, this site was helpful: Sodium Girl. I also just started making foods without sodium in them. Foods that taste tangy hit your tastebuds about like salt, so citrus, salsa, plain yogurt, etc. on foods can help. Bread without salt in it tastes really not great, but a tangy, sharp jam or jelly dresses it back up for breakfast. Trader Joe's (if that's an option) has some nice fire-roasted tomato salsa with very low sodium. Good luck out there.
     
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  7. JennaLu

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    Great advice, bewestbrook. Thank you!
     
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  8. WacoutaMan

    WacoutaMan New Member

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    There are solutions out there! Low sodium is actually less than 2000mg per day which gives you some wiggle room. Im a peanut butter freak and I found a really good peanut butter at Wallmart ! Its actually very good!

    The only constant in life is change!
     
  9. Jacqui

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    I ordered some of these from a lovely, helpful small company in US, they are like Mrs Dash but without the potassium. MSG free, preservative free, potassium chloride free, all natural, low carb and most of the blends are sugar free too. https://daksspices.com . I also notice that the generic or 'no-name' brands of items like tomato paste have much less salt and sugar than expensive brands. I used to collect salts from around the world and happily trot off to soy sauce tastings as a chef but now I am learning to cope without!
     
  10. EmilyP

    EmilyP New Member

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    Wonderful information, I am finding that sugar is my trigger. Altho I do low salt as well, but have elimated sugar, alcohol, chocolate and also low salt. I am on Johns regime and a antiviral. 2 months on all of this .Seeing chnages, still have low tinnitus mostly in the afternoon.
     
  11. Jacqui

    Jacqui New Member

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    Forgive me if someone else has posted this but I recommend myfitnesspal.com to track sodium, you have to do a quick log in but it hasn't charged me anything (yet!). Handy for those starting a low sodium diet to get a better idea of what in their daily diet is good/bad. Type in the food/beverage and it lists popular brands or portions then you add to the diary. Some real eyeopeners there and some things I was avoiding that aren't so bad in moderation.
     
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