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What is Gacek's explanation for cases that don't respond to Antivirals?

Discussion in 'Your Living Room' started by EkkoMusic, Aug 12, 2021.

  1. EkkoMusic

    EkkoMusic Member

    Jul 26, 2021
    Title says it all! Gacek definitively states that "Viruses (Herpes family) are the cause of the symptoms in MD". However, he admits his success rate with Antivirals is not 100% (at most, about 90% for control of vertigo).

    Has Gacek ever spoken about this? Are those 10% of failures migraine-associated MD cases, or due to other non-specified, non-viral causes? Circling back to Gacek's claim, do different viral strains/duration of symptoms potentially hinder an antiviral's effectiveness?
  2. EkkoMusic

    EkkoMusic Member

    Jul 26, 2021
    Update: This study says the following:

    "It is not surprising that control of vertigo was not greater than 85 to 90%, with antivirals, as mutant strains of the herpes virus group would be resistant to the acyclovir class of antivirals."
  3. JonBubo

    JonBubo Active Member

    Apr 11, 2019
    Hence, why I say to include broad spectrum antivirals. I am a lonely person in that regard Lol.
    Last I emailed with Gacek he was curious about olive leaf and monolaurin. Research $$ are hard to come by for a non patented solution though.
    I would be willing to bet the 90% would rise at least a fee percentage points if a regimen included one of these or others.
  4. david2salsero

    david2salsero Member

    Oct 28, 2017
    San Jose
    I’m curious here. For those dealing with hearing loss due to MD in one ear, would this rule out a viral component? I mean, why would the virus attack one ear and not the other?
  5. EkkoMusic

    EkkoMusic Member

    Jul 26, 2021
    From what I understand, it actually makes the most sense for a virus to (at least initially) affect a patient unilaterally. I can't immediately recall the explanation for this, but I know Dr. Derebery delves into it in this video.
  6. Blakeh

    Blakeh Active Member

    Aug 20, 2016
    I worked with Dr.Gacek (the son, the Dad is retired). He did not say much about…WHY he thought the anti virals weren’t working for me. He did acknowledge they aren’t working and recommended I move onto a surgical approach.

    When it comes to WHY the
    Antivirals stopped working, I think a good doctor will say they don’t know why. After all they don’t much about Menieres. So it’s all guessing.
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  7. IvanNew

    IvanNew Member

    Jan 18, 2021
    The good doctors are the ones who tell you that they do not know why you have Meniere or how to cure it because that is the real explanation for this disease that science can give right now with certainty. Then there are the best doctors who, in addition to recognizing this, test things that could work based on theories and clinical studies that, although they do not guarantee a 100% cure, show certain information.

    Finally, there are the bad doctors who do not tell you that you have Meniere or that they do not know how to cure you, they tell you to eat without salt, to avoid stress, to take a diuretic, etc. To save time and if the Meniere goes into remission at that perfect time, they will recommend injections or surgery, but always without telling you that they do not know what causes Meniere and that they do not know the cure.

    For now I have five doctors, seven ENT specialists and an otoneurologist. Only one of them told me that if the MRI did not show anything it was Meniere and that there was no cure, that the sulpiride or diazepam only served to sedate my inner ears and that my brain does not receive bad signals that cause my vertigo, but that they were not a cure just a "reliever" to pass the attacks. So I've only had one good doctor, zero best doctors, and the rest bad doctors.
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  8. Nathan

    Nathan Well-Known Member

    May 12, 2014
    Subsurface ocean, Europa
    Epistemic humility is an invaluable, yet depressingly rare virtue.
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